McNabb a REDSKIN!

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

McNabb got just as many of his completions from dumpoffs as Campbell did. Fact: McNabb had 15 passes of 20+ yards and Campbell had 14. Calling that an upgrade is stretching: McNabb is simply less accurate.

He just got even more yards from down the field plays, which won't translate for all of the obvious reasons.

If the stats I quoted, along with McNabb's Pro Bowls and playoff success aren't enough for you to admit he's a huge upgrade over Campbell then there's nothing that will change your mind.

I think you've gone way overboard on supporting JC, but to seriously believe McNabb isn't a huge upgrade.....c'mon. You've got to look at more than just completion %.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I think you've gone way overboard on supporting Colt McCoy, but to seriously believe McNabb isn't a huge upgrade.....c'mon. You've got to look at more than just completion %.

There fixed it for you. Please continue.

Just found this on Redskins.com:

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If the stats I quoted, along with McNabb's Pro Bowls and playoff success aren't enough for you to admit he's a huge upgrade over Campbell then there's nothing that will change your mind.

I think you've gone way overboard on supporting JC, but to seriously believe McNabb isn't a huge upgrade.....c'mon. You've got to look at more than just completion %.

I just hope people are not clinging to years past and are actually looking at what he can provide now.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

McNabb got just as many of his completions from dumpoffs as Campbell did. Fact: McNabb had 15 passes of 20+ yards and Campbell had 14. Calling that an upgrade is stretching: McNabb is simply less accurate.

He just got even more yards from down the field plays, which won't translate for all of the obvious reasons.

those obvious reasons = our receivers won't get open down the field?

maybe with a less vanilla offense they will

I mean when DT says something like Shanahan was shocked that we were running shit that we were.. gives me a lil hope

at least that gives you a reason to say that it wasn't McNabb it was Shanahan if Donovan does well

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

And Campbell got a bunch of completions from screens and garbage time. More important to look at more detailed stats:

QB Rate - McNabb = 92.9, JC = 86.4
TD% (TDs / Pass Att) - McNabb = 5.0, JC = 3.9
INT % (INT / Pass Att) - McNabb = 2.3, JC = 3.0
Adjusted Net Yds per ATT (complicated) - McNabb = 6.9, JC = 5.6

McNabb - 5 Time Pro Bowler, JC.....

for a 1 year loaner with minimally better stats(my opinion only), we gave up the 37th pick and a 4th next year. McNabb is what he is, but what good does he do us when he goes to the Vikings, or whereever. In the end he will be a minor improvement over JC and we will have given up 2 useful picks. But what's done is done. C'est la guerre.

[Gtothearry]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

for a 1 year loaner with minimally better stats(my opinion only), we gave up the 37th pick and a 4th next year. McNabb is what he is, but what good does he do us when he goes to the Vikings, or whereever. In the end he will be a minor improvement over JC and we will have given up 2 useful picks. But what's done is done. C'est la guerre.

1 year loner....... I can't see Allen making this move without Mcnabb assuring at least 3 years in Washington.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

for a 1 year loaner with minimally better stats(my opinion only), we gave up the 37th pick and a 4th next year. McNabb is what he is, but what good does he do us when he goes to the Vikings, or whereever. In the end he will be a minor improvement over JC and we will have given up 2 useful picks. But what's done is done. C'est la guerre.

You can't look at it that way. What we've done is immediately improved our QB situation and given ourselves MAJOR bargaining options. We can always renegotiate McNabb's contract for another 3 years if we want to keep him, trade him if not.

McNabb is a major improvement over JC. Just look at the TD% vs. INT % stats, his mobility and pocket presence is much better than JCs. His running game has been non-existent and prior to last year his receiving corps has been below average. He's also a well respected veteran QB.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Not that I'm comparing McNabb with Elway, but maybe Shanny can help McNabb win a SB the way he helped Elway.

Adam Schefter just noted that Elway was one year older than McNabb is now when he first got to Denver and went on to win those two Super Bowls

[Bushead]

I cannot believe this has happened. I always thought he was underrated and treated like shit for what he accomplished without any WR. Let's hope he can do it now.

[Pocket$ $traight]

The Mastermind strikes again!!!

[RMSkins]

I heard a rumor that Vinny Cerrato was at Redskins HQ this week.I thought it was a great April Fool's joke, but I guess it was true based on this move.

I absolutely hate this trade. I know McNabb is a pretty good QB, but he's also a 34-year-old choke artist. I would've much rather rode it out with Campbell this year and get a young, franchise QB next year. I think this is going to turn out to be a horrible mistake.

[NYCskinfan82]

I'll take await and see approach, i have a friend who is a eagurls fan and he said I'm running with you now Doug Williams Pt. 2.

[SirClintonPortis]

Well, look on the bright side. McNabb is not going to have one-dimensional playcaller who abandons the run or never bothers to establish it. He's also going to have plenty of oppurtunities to roll out or pass on a bootleg.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Well, look on the bright side. McNabb is not going to have one-dimensional playcaller who abandons the run or never bothers to establish it. He's also going to have plenty of oppurtunities to roll out or pass on a bootleg.

And with LJ, we actually have a goal line running game, something he never had in Philly.

[Defensewins]

Live oOn ESPN news a little while ago Andy Reid said, "if Donovan McNabb were here in philly he would be the starter no question."
That made me realize the high caliber of player we are getting at the most important position on the field.
With our incredibly talented young TE's and WR's...and Portis, Johnson and Parker in the backfield we have instantly upgraded to a legitimate NFL offense overnight.
Shanahan and his staff combined with a McNabb is a major deal.
Now we get the best LT available at #4 which will be an immeadiate starter. .