McNabb a REDSKIN!

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

This is a bit off topic, but who's he going to throw to? Our receivers haven't exactly lit up the field in recent years.

T.O. is still out there. They kissed and made up. The are supposed to do a reality show together. or something.

[skinsguy]

I still think I am imagining this! I just emailed one of my co-workers who is a HUGE Eagles fan. I'm sure he is still cursing and will continue to do so until I see him Tuesday morning!

[12thMan]

I just love how just 12 hours ago we were all swearing up and down that this trade was inconceivable.

[mooby]

I really hope we aren't getting that excited over this deal. I mean yeah it's McNabb and maybe this makes us better in the short term but it definitely doesn't make us better long term. And I feel like this hurts Campbell's trade value, because this is officially us saying we don't give a crap about him and he could probably be had for a dime or less.

Like SS already said we will probably see Shanny make some head scratching decisions as coach and I feel like this is the first one. McNabb is good, but #1 he's old, and #2 he's had injury problems. Those are never good combinations. He's going to give us 3-5 years at best and if things don't start out so well I'm probably being generous with that estimate.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by mooby

I really hope we aren't getting that excited over this deal. I mean yeah it's McNabb and maybe this makes us better in the short term but it definitely doesn't make us better long term. And I feel like this hurts Campbell's trade value, because this is officially us saying we don't give a crap about him and he could probably be had for a dime or less.

Like SS already said we will probably see Shanny make some head scratching decisions as coach and I feel like this is the first one. McNabb is good, but #1 he's old, and #2 he's had injury problems. Those are never good combinations. He's going to give us 3-5 years at best and if things don't start out so well I'm probably being generous with that estimate.

I guess you have to define long term. McNabb is better than JC and I think he will be better than Bradford, Clausen, McCoy and Tebow for at least 3 years if not the duration.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by mooby

I really hope we aren't getting that excited over this deal. I mean yeah it's McNabb and maybe this makes us better in the short term but it definitely doesn't make us better long term. And I feel like this hurts Campbell's trade value, because this is officially us saying we don't give a crap about him and he could probably be had for a dime or less.

Like SS already said we will probably see Shanny make some head scratching decisions as coach and I feel like this is the first one. McNabb is good, but #1 he's old, and #2 he's had injury problems. Those are never good combinations. He's going to give us 3-5 years at best and if things don't start out so well I'm probably being generous with that estimate.

I'm with you on this one Mooby! If McNabb is healthy, we're in the playoffs (assuming our OL is fixed!) But, if he gets hurt...Grossman here we come! I do see us drafting a QB at #4!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by mooby

I really hope we aren't getting that excited over this deal. I mean yeah it's McNabb and maybe this makes us better in the short term but it definitely doesn't make us better long term. And I feel like this hurts Campbell's trade value, because this is officially us saying we don't give a crap about him and he could probably be had for a dime or less.

Like SS already said we will probably see Shanny make some head scratching decisions as coach and I feel like this is the first one. McNabb is good, but #1 he's old, and #2 he's had injury problems. Those are never good combinations. He's going to give us 3-5 years at best and if things don't start out so well I'm probably being generous with that estimate.

You raise some good points, but what has Campbell given us in five years? And if McNabb can give us three really good years, I think it was worth it.

In terms of Campbell's trade value, well, it is what it is. I'm not sure if this really drops his value all that much. It's no big secret that we've trying to part ways with him since last year.

[Dlyne8r]

Will this trade with Philly supplant the rivalry between the 'Skins and Cowboys? For years it seemed as if the "hate" between Dallas and Washington was nonexistent. Now, there is something very personal between the Redskins and Eagles. Should provide copious amounts of drama this season and beyond.

[BringBackJoeT]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

Will this trade with Philly supplant the rivalry between the 'Skins and Cowboys? For years it seemed as if the "hate" between Dallas and Washington was nonexistent. Now, there is something very personal between the Redskins and Eagles. Should provide copious amounts of drama this season and beyond.

No.

Indeed, this will certainly up the ante between the Eagles and Redskins, but let's keep it in perspective.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

Will this trade with Philly supplant the rivalry between the 'Skins and Cowboys? For years it seemed as if the "hate" between Dallas and Washington was nonexistent. Now, there is something very personal between the Redskins and Eagles. Should provide copious amounts of drama this season and beyond.

Really? Anyone who's not a Redskins fan knows that Eagles/Cowboys has been the best rivalry in the NFC East in recent years. If anything this trade brings Skins/Boys back to forefront as the premier rivalry in the division. Maybe.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Really? Anyone who's not a Redskins fan knows that Eagles/Cowboys has been the best rivalry in the NFC East in recent years. If anything this trade brings Skins/Boys back to forefront as the premier rivalry in the division. Maybe.

Nah, I think this is THE new rivalry. It's not just about the media hype surrounding the trade, but the fans will be hostile as ever. This is going to be a serious grudge match.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Nah, I think this is THE new rivalry. It's not just about the media hype surrounding the trade, but the fans will be hostile as ever. This is going to be a serious grudge match.

I think this makes the Skins-Boys a renewed rivalry for sure, and also creates a new tone to the upcoming Eagles-Skins games. But there's no doubt that Eagles-Cowboys has been the premier rivalry in our division in recent years.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

Will this trade with Philly supplant the rivalry between the 'Skins and Cowboys? For years it seemed as if the "hate" between Dallas and Washington was nonexistent. Now, there is something very personal between the Redskins and Eagles. Should provide copious amounts of drama this season and beyond.

This definitely makes the rivalry more meaningful, and perhaps for the first time in a long time, exceeds the Dallas game. I would imagine both games will be nationally televised.

[Defensewins]

Donovan was #1 QB last year with 17 plays over 40+ yards.
Campbell was #12 with 8.

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[Big C]

someone from scouts inc thinks the raiders could offer their 2nd rounder for campbell. if somehow we can recoup a 2nd round pick, we'd essentially be swapping campbell for mcnabb and a 3rd or 4th rounder next year. that would be an excellent piece of business if we could do that.