McNabb a REDSKIN!

[doughtydoubter]

wow....i sat down after i head the news...read the 27 posts of comments when i got home, tried to let it sink in as i tossed and turned....
and i am still completely in shock.
Not in a bad way...we have for the first time in a long time a qb that is unequivocally the starter. Something that we have needed for a very very long time.
I love it.
For all you that wanted Jc to be the man - he was a classy guy, but being nice doesnt equate to tds

[Gmanc711]

I woke up this morning and didn't think this actually happened until I turned on MIke & Mike.....true story.

[12thMan]

I think when people look at McNabb's stats over the past few years, keep in mind that the Eagles had a very one dimensional, pass happy offense. Second, Andy Reid's play calling has left a lot to be desired recently.

It can't be stressed enough that Shanahan will implement a more balanced attack that will take some of the pressure off McNabb. He's going to be in entirely different situation here with the Redskins.

[SBXVII]

CRedskinsRule,

I've heard that said, but Kyle is our OC and calling plays, did Houston run the same offense as his dad? I don't know, I am asking because I would say Houston didn't seem to be a WCO.

I think the Offenses should be similar. Kyle worked under Gruden in Tampa (WCO). He then moved to Houston where he worked under a HC that worked under Shanahan. I know we hear all the touting of Kyle Shanahan being the OC in Houston but the HC was already in place and ran an offense similar to what Shanahan was running. Kyle was WR coach, then QB coach, then OC. He had time to learn some of his fathers system and run it.

Kyle sounds like a coach who will take chances. Will want to pass the ball. Mike Shanahan was more of a HC that liked to run the ball. The good news is the blocking scheme was the same under Alex Gibbs for both coach's. So mixing both will not be to bad an issue as it was with our Joe Gibbs running mixed with Zorn's/Holmgrens passing attack.

[CRedskinsRule]

How many people who voted that they didn't want McNabb here in Washington are now voting that they approve of the trade. 57 to 25 not wanting him here and yet now 20 - 6 approve this trade. I don't get what changed from Friday's poll to this morning's other than the trade actually took place.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

How many people who voted that they didn't want McNabb here in Washington are now voting that they approve of the trade. 57 to 25 not wanting him here and yet now 20 - 6 approve this trade. I don't get what changed from Friday's poll to this morning's other than the trade actually took place.

lol yeah it's odd to me too

Like you said, the only thing that changed is the trade actually happened. Perhaps people have had a chance to think about it and when reality sets in they realized it's a good move.

How you can go from JC to McNabb and not like it is beyond me.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

lol yeah it's odd to me too

Like you said, the only thing that changed is the trade actually happened. Perhaps people have had a chance to think about it and when reality sets in they realized it's a good move.

How you can go from JC to McNabb and not like it is beyond me.

I'll agree with you mentally he's alot better then JC. He's less mobile then JC right now though. Pick your poison.

Lastly, Why did JC put up similar numbers if he's not a good, not as smart, worse OL, bad HC, and a very bad scheme? All I'm saying is take the whole picture in and look at it. Don't simply look at the fact that McNabb will be a HOF. McNabb was a franchise with the Eagles. McNabb used to be mobile. McNabb put up numbers.... but with better situation not that much better then JC for being 10 times better. I just feel we are getting rooked again. We just got snookered by Andy Reid. Jason Taylor ring a bell? I just hope after this year McNabb does not go back to the Eagles.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'll agree with you mentally he's alot better then JC. He's less mobile then JC right now though. Pick your poison.

Lastly, Why did JC put up similar numbers if he's not a good, not as smart, worse OL, bad HC, and a very bad scheme? All I'm saying is take the whole picture in and look at it. Don't simply look at the fact that McNabb will be a HOF. McNabb was a franchise with the Eagles. McNabb used to be mobile. McNabb put up numbers.... but with better situation not that much better then JC for being 10 times better. I just feel we are getting rooked again. We just got snookered by Andy Reid. Jason Taylor ring a bell? I just hope after this year McNabb does not go back to the Eagles.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'll agree with you mentally he's alot better then JC. He's less mobile then JC right now though. Pick your poison.

Lastly, Why did JC put up similar numbers if he's not a good, not as smart, worse OL, bad HC, and a very bad scheme? All I'm saying is take the whole picture in and look at it. Don't simply look at the fact that McNabb will be a HOF. McNabb was a franchise with the Eagles. McNabb used to be mobile. McNabb put up numbers.... but with better situation not that much better then JC for being 10 times better. I just feel we are getting rooked again. We just got snookered by Andy Reid. Jason Taylor ring a bell? I just hope after this year McNabb does not go back to the Eagles.

Last year JC played 16 games, DM played 14. So if you projected out DM's numbers to 16 games we're talking about him throwing for 4060 yards and 25 TDs. The numbers aren't so comparable then.

DM's QB rating was also much higher.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Last year JC played 16 games, DM played 14. So if you projected out DM's numbers to 16 games we're talking about him throwing for 4060 yards and 25 TDs. The numbers aren't so comparable then.

DM's QB rating was also much higher.

I'm not sure I'd call 5 more TD's a huge difference. Making up numbers is speculation. McNabb plays a good team he might not have gotten the numbers, he plays a bad team he throws up more. But I'll give you the fact that your giving McNabb close to 200 yrds for each game.

Chalk me up to a Skeptic of this move. Hope it works out but would rather have had a Drafted Qb for our future.

[Miller101]

I think this is a dumb move. Quarterback is not the issue with this team. Offensive line is. Campbell didn't have time to make any throws last year and our running backs got less then four yards a carry. Its pathetic! Our Offensive line is one of the worst in the league and we get a quarterback? Freakin dumb! Just dumb! This draft class is one of the deepest I've seen for lineman and yet we trade away one of those draft picks for an old man? Its dumb!

Allen, Shanahan, and Haslett have blown up this team. They switch from a 4-3 defense to a 3-4 and cut everybody that they could think of. And then get an old man for a quarterback? You only do that if you're team is pretty well set. You only do that if your defense is practically there, if your offensive line is practically there, you have a pretty good receiving corps and some pretty good running backs. Then adding an old salty veteran quarterback is a good thing. Then he'll get you over the hump and get you into the playoffs. Then he'll make your team better. But, now? We don't have any talent to beat anybody!!! Why in the heck would we do this now? Its stupid. We're rebuilding and We traded away two picks which we could use to build our team for an old guy that is not going to do much better ................................I need a beer!

One thing is for sure though. Danny still runs this team. Not the business side, but the players side. He still runs it. And Vinny does too!

This deal just reaks of Danny and Vinny working together........................I need to get drunk!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'll agree with you mentally he's alot better then JC. He's less mobile then JC right now though. Pick your poison.

Lastly, Why did JC put up similar numbers if he's not a good, not as smart, worse OL, bad HC, and a very bad scheme? All I'm saying is take the whole picture in and look at it. Don't simply look at the fact that McNabb will be a HOF. McNabb was a franchise with the Eagles. McNabb used to be mobile. McNabb put up numbers.... but with better situation not that much better then JC for being 10 times better. I just feel we are getting rooked again. We just got snookered by Andy Reid. Jason Taylor ring a bell? I just hope after this year McNabb does not go back to the Eagles.

I think JC is what he is. Simply an average servicable QB that needs everything around him to be working well in order to be successful. McNabb doesn't need that. Plus Jason Taylor was not in the prime of his career and we asked him to play out of position...and QB is a much more important position than DE.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think JC is what he is. Simply an average servicable QB that needs everything around him to be working well in order to be successful. McNabb doesn't need that. Plus Jason Taylor was not in the prime of his career and we asked him to play out of position...and QB is a much more important position than DE.

Yeah the comparison to Jason Taylor doesn't make much sense. Two completely different situations.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think JC is what he is. Simply an average servicable QB that needs everything around him to be working well in order to be successful. McNabb doesn't need that. Plus Jason Taylor was not in the prime of his career and we asked him to play out of position...and QB is a much more important position than DE.

I'm argueing that McNabb's not in his prime either. After two injury plagued yrs he's not the same QB.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'll agree with you mentally he's alot better then JC. He's less mobile then JC right now though. Pick your poison

But JC is scared to take off and run and he takes to long to pull the trigger. I'll take McNabb