McNabb a REDSKIN!

[cdskins26]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Mike and Mike said that we offered up Haynesworth for McNabb. Did any one here of this?

Bad idea there. He may have been less productive last year, but IMO every player and team gets 2 years to adjust to new players before being labeled a bust.

[Gtothearry]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Mike and Mike said that we offered up Haynesworth for McNabb. Did any one here of this?

Yep, it's true. Too much money for any team to take on though.

[irish]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Mike and Mike said that we offered up Haynesworth for McNabb. Did any one here of this?

The Peter King article says this too.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

A true comparison of JC and the CURRENT form of DM is not a collection of all McNabb ever did, but a question of what they did with what they worked with. Can McNabb do better with what Campbell had?

Jason's best receiver, Santana. NcNabb's? DeSean Jackson
Advantage to McNabb. His best receiver is younger, faster, and constantly broke away for 40+ yard gains.

#2 and 3 receivers. Jason had Randel el and two revolving knuckleheads who took turns TRYING to step up. Donovan had Jeremy Maclin and Avant.
Advantage McNabb. Those two guys stepped up whenever needed and made plays.

Celek has more yards and touchdowns than Davis and Cooley combined, but Davis dropped a few that Cooley may have taken to the house. i would say that Cooley and Celek are on the same level if Cooley doesn't have to block all the time and can be used in the passing game. We'll call this a tie.

O-Line... Obviously advantage McNabb. Though not the best at run blocking, they pass blocked with the best of them.

HB!? without Portis, Advantage McNabb. People feared Westbrook and planned a whole week around him. Nobody plans for Betts, ha ha ha! (I'm so glad he's gone)

Coaching staff... bwa ha ha ha ha!!! I wonder who gets the advantage there!?! Zorn... really? HA! The man was a worse coach than he was a quarterback, and that is saying a lot since i think 70 or 80% of his seasons he didn't throw more TDs than INTs. Loser. His playcalling was abysmal and his locker presense was about as strong as that of a back-up kicker. Hip Hip Hooray my @$$.

Offense... McNabb was in a system that he had been in for over a decade. It's a version of the west coast that he's used to get to 5 championships... FIVE!!! Jason was using a crappy version that was easily figured out by opposing defenses and was NOT geared toward him or his existing receiving corps. They didn't even utilize the TE fully until Cooley was hurt. And THAT was mainly Jason saying "Screw these guys, i'd rather watch Fred Davis catch a short one than see Kelly drop a long one.
Advantage McNabb

Now with as good of a tight end, a better coach, better receiving core with a younger and faster star receiver, better pass blocking, better running back, in a familiar/better offense with a better coaching staff... How much better did Donovan do?

Not much.

So, if he was here, how many hits could he have taken? Would he have been around for the saints game? He sucked against them with his better team, but no, Todd Collins probably wouldn've played because McNabb would've been injured again. take a look at how many full seasons he's played in the last few years.

Honestly, How much better did Donovan do in his far better situation than Jason? They almost did the SAME!?!?!

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

A true comparison of JC and the CURRENT form of DM is not a collection of all McNabb ever did, but a question of what they did with what they worked with. Can McNabb do better with what Campbell had?

Jason's best receiver, Santana. NcNabb's? DeSean Jackson
Advantage to McNabb. His best receiver is younger, faster, and constantly broke away for 40+ yard gains.

#2 and 3 receivers. Jason had Randel el and two revolving knuckleheads who took turns TRYING to step up. Donovan had Jeremy Maclin and Avant.
Advantage McNabb. Those two guys stepped up whenever needed and made plays.

Celek has more yards and touchdowns than Davis and Cooley combined, but Davis dropped a few that Cooley may have taken to the house. i would say that Cooley and Celek are on the same level if Cooley doesn't have to block all the time and can be used in the passing game. We'll call this a tie.

O-Line... Obviously advantage McNabb. Though not the best at run blocking, they pass blocked with the best of them.

HB!? without Portis, Advantage McNabb. People feared Westbrook and planned a whole week around him. Nobody plans for Betts, ha ha ha! (I'm so glad he's gone)

Coaching staff... bwa ha ha ha ha!!! I wonder who gets the advantage there!?! Zorn... really? HA! The man was a worse coach than he was a quarterback, and that is saying a lot since i think 70 or 80% of his seasons he didn't throw more TDs than INTs. Loser. His playcalling was abysmal and his locker presense was about as strong as that of a back-up kicker. Hip Hip Hooray my @$$.

Offense... McNabb was in a system that he had been in for over a decade. It's a version of the west coast that he's used to get to 5 championships... FIVE!!! Jason was using a crappy version that was easily figured out by opposing defenses and was NOT geared toward him or his existing receiving corps. They didn't even utilize the TE fully until Cooley was hurt. And THAT was mainly Jason saying "Screw these guys, i'd rather watch Fred Davis catch a short one than see Kelly drop a long one.
Advantage McNabb

Now with as good of a tight end, a better coach, better receiving core with a younger and faster star receiver, better pass blocking, better running back, in a familiar/better offense with a better coaching staff... How much better did Donovan do?

Not much.

So, if he was here, how many hits could he have taken? Would he have been around for the saints game? He sucked against them with his better team, but no, Todd Collins probably wouldn've played because McNabb would've been injured again. take a look at how many full seasons he's played in the last few years.

Honestly, How much better did Donovan do in his far better situation than Jason? They almost did the SAME!?!?!

Yeah but who did he have before them?? not counting the one yr he had T.O McNabb only had stopgap players to throw to and still got his team to NFC Champ games. Just sayin.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Yeah but who did he have before them?? not counting the one yr he had T.O McNabb only had stopgap players to throw to and still got his team to NFC Champ games. Just sayin.

Hey, he had Thrash! Okay... i don't know where that was going...

Seriously, The whole point of my comment was NOT to go back 3, 4, 5 years and go , "LOOK AT McNABB!!"

LAST YEAR with a BETTER TEAM and BETTER COACHES he did THE SAME AS JASON CAMPBELL! So, do you think he would've done better with OUR coach, OUR receivers, OUR offensive line, and an unfamiliar playbook!?!

Who's to say that with a better Eagles O-Line, better receivers, Better plays called by a better coach, JASON CAMPBELL wouldn't have done better as an Eagle!?!? Think about it!

[Hail to the Redskins]

A couple of important questions...

A) Has anyone heard when the press conference is scheduled to introduce him?

B) When is the McNabb avatar popping up?!? lol

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

LAST YEAR with a BETTER TEAM and BETTER COACHES he did THE SAME AS JASON CAMPBELL! So, do you think he would've done better with OUR coach, OUR receivers, OUR offensive line, and an unfamiliar playbook!?!

Who's to say that with a better Eagles O-Line, better receivers, Better plays called by a better coach, JASON CAMPBELL wouldn't have done better as an Eagle!?!? Think about it!

one thing JC should be thankful for is that zorn then mitchell molded an offense geared towards getting the most out of JC stat wise.

of JC's 3500 passing yards, 2000 came after the catch. this percent is so much higher than any next qb in the league its ridiculus. i did the math a while ago but JC came out at about 68% of his passing yards coming after the catch where the qb average was in the mid to low 50% range.

our Fo reviewed tape after tape of JC im sure and came to the conclusion that they can not win with him. period. i love JC as a person. i felt bad for him when he was benched this year. but he is what he is, a qb who cant read defenses, a qb whom coached cant trust to allow him to amke his own audibles (after 5 years in the league), a qb who is hesitant to trust what he sees, a qb who is hesitant to throw the ball, a qb who has poor timing on routes, a qb who cant throw accurately enough or lead a reciever properly.

there was just way to many limitations that JC brings for shanny/allen/kyle to put their rep on the line for. this isnt zorn and sherm where they were told who is starting. these are competent respected football people who had reviewed and study more JC tape than any of us, and they made their determination. period. jc is a great guy but hes done with the skins.

[Miller101]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

A true comparison of JC and the CURRENT form of DM is not a collection of all McNabb ever did, but a question of what they did with what they worked with. Can McNabb do better with what Campbell had?

Jason's best receiver, Santana. NcNabb's? DeSean Jackson
Advantage to McNabb. His best receiver is younger, faster, and constantly broke away for 40+ yard gains.

#2 and 3 receivers. Jason had Randel el and two revolving knuckleheads who took turns TRYING to step up. Donovan had Jeremy Maclin and Avant.
Advantage McNabb. Those two guys stepped up whenever needed and made plays.

Celek has more yards and touchdowns than Davis and Cooley combined, but Davis dropped a few that Cooley may have taken to the house. i would say that Cooley and Celek are on the same level if Cooley doesn't have to block all the time and can be used in the passing game. We'll call this a tie.

O-Line... Obviously advantage McNabb. Though not the best at run blocking, they pass blocked with the best of them.

HB!? without Portis, Advantage McNabb. People feared Westbrook and planned a whole week around him. Nobody plans for Betts, ha ha ha! (I'm so glad he's gone)

Coaching staff... bwa ha ha ha ha!!! I wonder who gets the advantage there!?! Zorn... really? HA! The man was a worse coach than he was a quarterback, and that is saying a lot since i think 70 or 80% of his seasons he didn't throw more TDs than INTs. Loser. His playcalling was abysmal and his locker presense was about as strong as that of a back-up kicker. Hip Hip Hooray my @$$.

Offense... McNabb was in a system that he had been in for over a decade. It's a version of the west coast that he's used to get to 5 championships... FIVE!!! Jason was using a crappy version that was easily figured out by opposing defenses and was NOT geared toward him or his existing receiving corps. They didn't even utilize the TE fully until Cooley was hurt. And THAT was mainly Jason saying "Screw these guys, i'd rather watch Fred Davis catch a short one than see Kelly drop a long one.
Advantage McNabb

Now with as good of a tight end, a better coach, better receiving core with a younger and faster star receiver, better pass blocking, better running back, in a familiar/better offense with a better coaching staff... How much better did Donovan do?

Not much.

So, if he was here, how many hits could he have taken? Would he have been around for the saints game? He sucked against them with his better team, but no, Todd Collins probably wouldn've played because McNabb would've been injured again. take a look at how many full seasons he's played in the last few years.

Honestly, How much better did Donovan do in his far better situation than Jason? They almost did the SAME!?!?!

I couldn't agree more with you man! McNabb is done by week six! Its going to be his ribs! Campbell is going to be so pissed off that he's gone already so we're going to have Rex Grossman step up.....................LOL!

He's going to throw seventeen interceptions by the third quarter! And as if thats not enough he's going to fumble the ball eleven times! Mark my words He's going to be so scared of getting hit that he will just start throwing the ball away.

Teams will like him so much that they will gameplan, not to kill him, but to hit him. Just hard enough to make him fumble or throw it up there.................................Man, I need to get drunk.

[skinsfan69]

Philly is just cleaning house...McNabb, Westbrook, Sheldon Brown, Darren Howard, Shawn Andrews former Redskin Clemons. Times are changing up there.

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Philly is just cleaning house...McNabb, Westbrook, Sheldon Brown, Darren Howard, Shawn Andrews former Redskin Clemons. Times are changing up there.

Like Peter King said, the team had become stale and changes need to be made.

[SBXVII]

Yes we offered AH. It was mentioned half way through last nights discussions. Probably around page 20 somewere.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Yes we offered AH. It was mentioned half way through last nights discussions. Probably around page 20 somewere.

And don't think that the FO didn't leak that to light a fire under Haynesworth's fat ass. With the moves that the FO is making to win now, he had better report to camp in game shape. His conditioning last season was a disgrace.

[Mechanix544]

At least Donovan will pull the trigger, JC is a little bitch when it coes to throwing the ball downfield.


CHeckdown, checkdown, throw away, throw away, fumble......

[TheSmurfs22]

Wtf?!?!