McNabb a REDSKIN!

[luke4twenty]

JC may now either be used as a trading chip, or, we have the best depth at the QB position that I can remember. Interesting to see what we do with JC, I mean, its gotta suck to be him.

[Dirtbag59]

All right I'm tired of hearing that McNabb had comparable stats when compared to JC. For starters McNabb missed 2.2 games this year. Thats most likely good another 400 yards and 3 or 4 TD's which would have made his stats 3,900 to 4,000 yards and 25 or 26 TD's. He put up comparable stats in 2 less games.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

All right I'm tired of hearing that McNabb had comparable stats when compared to JC. For starters McNabb missed 2.2 games this year. Thats most likely good another 400 yards and 3 or 4 TD's which would have made his stats 3,900 to 4,000 yards and 25 or 26 TD's. He put up comparable stats in 2 less games.

You're right. He'll never get injured here. We should already add on two games for the playoff games he'll get us to.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

You're right. He'll never get injured here. We should already add on two games for the playoff games he'll get us to.

Never said he wouldn't get injured. However people kept on saying that Campbell put up comparable numbers and thats simply not true. It's like if I had two basketball players and with the same amount of points. One guys averages 25 ppg while the other averages around 17 ppg.

Basically McNabb is much better on a per game basis. He's certainly a better prospect then Schuab.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Never said he wouldn't get injured. However people kept on saying that Campbell put up comparable numbers and thats simply not true. It's like if I had two basketball players and with the same amount of points. One guys averages 25 ppg while the other averages around 17 ppg.

Basically McNabb is much better on a per game basis. He's certainly a better prospect then Schuab.

No. That's not what it's like at all. It's as if you had a 19 PPG guy and an 18 PPG guy, but the 19 PPG guy (who had averaged 21 PPG for his career, perhaps) had an injury history (so the 18 PPG guy had more points scored) and a large contract, and you traded for him anyway. Reasoning being: the 18 PPG player just isn't cutting it.

Age issues aside, that's a poor solution to a perceived problem. And it would make you ask out loud if they really understood the problem to begin with.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

No. That's not what it's like at all. It's as if you had a 19 PPG guy and an 18 PPG guy, but the 19 PPG guy (who had averaged 21 PPG for his career, perhaps) had an injury history (so the 18 PPG guy had more points scored) and a large contract, and you traded for him anyway. Reasoning being: the 18 PPG player just isn't cutting it.

Age issues aside, that's a poor solution to a perceived problem.

So I'm guessing you don't like the McNabb trade?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

So I'm guessing you don't like the McNabb trade?

What?! Who told you?

[Audi]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

All right I'm tired of hearing that McNabb had comparable stats when compared to JC. For starters McNabb missed 2.2 games this year. Thats most likely good another 400 yards and 3 or 4 TD's which would have made his stats 3,900 to 4,000 yards and 25 or 26 TD's. He put up comparable stats in 2 less games.

Make no mistake, McNabb is light years ahead of Jason Campbell. Imagine if he had the durability and running game of the Redskins in years past (not this year, obviously) and Santana Moss as his number one instead of James Thrash or Dante Sallworth.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Audi

Make no mistake, McNabb is light years ahead of Jason Campbell. Imagine if he had the durability and running game of the Redskins in years past (not this year, obviously) and Santana Moss as his number one instead of James Thrash or Dante Sallworth.

You, me, and Stink agree

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by luke4twenty

JC may now either be used as a trading chip, or, we have the best depth at the QB position that I can remember. Interesting to see what we do with JC, I mean, its gotta suck to be him.

Well, like I said in my analysis last night, there are no bonuses for the team that can collect the most mid-tier quarterbacks.

We had great QB depth in 2005, 2006, and 2007 as well, although those player pale in comparison to McNabb + Campbell. Now, I don't actually think Campbell will be here in 2010, but there's no incentive to release him if you don't get a trade offer to your liking.

The thing is that Campbell clearly has more value than McNabb going forward, that much is certain. But in the absence of sticking with Campbell beyond this year, which it was obvious that no one was planning on, that's not really relevant.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, like I said in my analysis last night, there are no bonuses for the team that can collect the most mid-tier quarterbacks.

We had great QB depth in 2005, 2006, and 2007 as well, although those player pale in comparison to McNabb + Campbell. Now, I don't actually think Campbell will be here in 2010, but there's no incentive to release him if you don't get a trade offer to your liking.

The thing is that Campbell clearly has more value than McNabb going forward, that much is certain. But in the absence of sticking with Campbell beyond this year, which it was obvious that no one was planning on, that's not really relevant.

I know I'm going to hate myself for asking...but how so?

[luke4twenty]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know I'm going to hate myself for asking...but how so?

I think he means that JC is younger, and was improving (stat wise) every year, plus not a lot of injury concerns...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know I'm going to hate myself for asking...but how so?

McNabb is probably 500-900 passing attempts away from being a player who just-can't-do-it anymore (think McNair 07, or Delhomme '09). Campbell figures to peak as a talent around age 31, or two to three years in the future.

I wouldn't want to be the guy holding the contract for McNabb's age-35 to age-37 seasons, but I'm that much closer now. And how quickly is he going to age behind Heyer/Williams/Rabach. Are we going to do anything to give up a chance behind that right side even after addressing the left side with the No. 4 pick?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

McNabb is probably 500-900 passing attempts away from being a player who just-can't-do-it anymore (think McNair 07, or Delhomme '09). Campbell figures to peak as a talent around age 31, or two to three years in the future.

I wouldn't want to be the guy holding the contract for McNabb's age-35 to age-37 seasons, but I'm that much closer now. And how quickly is he going to age behind Heyer/Williams/Rabach. Are we going to do anything to give up a chance behind that right side even after addressing the left side with the No. 4 pick?

I'm very hopeful McNabb can succeed here, but I share your skepticism. The bottom line is we as fans have been burned so many times, I simply refuse to give the benefit of the doubt to this organization anymore, regardless of the big names calling the shots.