Donovan McNabb: The New Face of The Redskins

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Lovefest? This is practically a public riot. People think that just because we're trying to "win now" we're doing things the Vinny way. I think people had it set in their minds that we were going to be below .500 this year and now that it's clear that we're going to try to win people are uncomfortable because they immediately associate this with the old regime.

Yet at the same time people were begging for us to go O-Line first and with this trade we're practically guaranteed to get a franchise tackle, yet thats not good enough for some people, because they thought QB hungry people would accept simply drafting a Tony Pike or God forbid John Skelator. This is the compromise and it's a pretty damn good one if you ask me. Franchise tackle and QB in the same year.

This is a front office that has been proactive all the while displaying prudence and patience. I certainly don't agree with the Vinny comparisons though I do understand what would lead one to draw that conclusion.

And one more thing, Vinny would have basically thrown the bank at Peppers, Clifton, and Dansby. Drafted Clausen then traded for Gaither. Personally I don't mind the draft strategy but going after the first three free agents mentioned would have been overkill.

I personally don't give a damn what Vinny would have done, he's not here. GTripp basically got called out for saying if you want to judge Shanahan and Allen on this move alone, they were idiots. If I recall correctly, the Eagles at first wanted a 1rst round pick for McNabb. Then after not getting much action, lowered that to a top 42 pick. We gave them #37 and a 3rd or 4th next year. I call that idiotic. Not only did we draft IMO, an over rated 33 year old QB with a very high 2nd this year, we're drafting a 34 year old over rated QB with our 3rd or 4th next year. And one more thing. I would hardly call throwing draft picks at a 33 year old QB prudence and patience.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

We gave them #37 and a 3rd or 4th next year. I call that idiotic. Not only did we draft IMO, an over rated 33 year old QB with a very high 2nd this year, we're drafting a 34 year old over rated QB with our 3rd or 4th next year. And one more thing. I would hardly call throwing draft picks at a 33 year old QB prudence and patience.

Interestingly enough, many Philly fans (including his most ardent detractors) think they gave away D-Mac for way too little. Funny how perspective swings with fence sides haha.

Seriously though, if we're not in the NFC East I think we don't have to throw in next year's pick. Call it a premium to get a division rival's franchise QB... this type of trade rarely happens. You've gotta remember that the Eagle's FO knows they're helping a division foe get stronger; considering division is everything, you've got to sweeten the pot a bit. I think we came out just fine.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Interestingly enough, many Philly fans (including his most ardent detractors) think they gave away D-Mac for way too little. Funny how perspective swings with fence sides haha.

Seriously though, if we're not in the NFC East I think we don't have to throw in next year's pick. Call it a premium to get a division rival's franchise QB... this type of trade rarely happens. You've gotta remember that the Eagle's FO knows they're helping a division foe get stronger; considering division is everything, you've got to sweeten the pot a bit. I think we came out just fine.

It's even funnier a day earlier cause most Eagle fans were happy about the trade and said they would have taken less just to get rid of McNabb. some even offered to back the truck up and move his ass. LOL.

It sounded today like half the fans would have taken anything and were no longer happy with him, and the other half just can't see McNabb in a Skins uni. I didn't hear any of them saying "we should have gotten more for him."

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

It sounded today like half the fans would have taken anything and were no longer happy with him, and the other half just can't see McNabb in a Skins uni. I didn't hear any of them saying "we should have gotten more for him."

Hmmm... I just took a look at a few forums today and I heard plenty of Eagles fans saying exactly that. My Eagles' buddy thinks we absolutely stole him.

Wingheads

If you read the entire thread, there's a few guys chiming in on the value they received- I didn't see one believing they got the better end of the deal (just a few anxious to see Kolb).

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Interestingly enough, many Philly fans (including his most ardent detractors) think they gave away D-Mac for way too little. Funny how perspective swings with fence sides haha.

Seriously though, if we're not in the NFC East I think we don't have to throw in next year's pick. Call it a premium to get a division rival's franchise QB... this type of trade rarely happens. You've gotta remember that the Eagle's FO knows they're helping a division foe get stronger; considering division is everything, you've got to sweeten the pot a bit. I think we came out just fine.

Some of us are putting a pretty high value on JC. That's what fans do. Philly was in a bind with McNabb deciding he wouldn't sign with certain teams. I don't think next years picks were necessary.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Some of us are putting a pretty high value on JC. That's what fans do. Philly was in a bind with McNabb deciding he wouldn't sign with certain teams. I don't think next years picks were necessary.

Thats something we can agree with. Lol, I saw the Bills message board and someone thought we would trade JC for a 5th round pick and a 32 year old linebacker that didn't even play last year.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Thats something we can agree with. Lol, I saw the Bills message board and someone thought we would trade JC for a 5th round pick and a 32 year old linebacker that didn't even play last year.

Geez... Wait a minute...was it Marcus?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Geez... Wait a minute...was it Marcus?

Josh Stamer? Josh Stamer

He looks like a hockey player. Probably a grinder.

Edit: Never mind, he had 3 whole tackles last year.

Look I don't even mind the 5th round offer, it's very possible that might be the highest we can get, but don't act like you're sweetening the deal by adding a random player that wouldn't make it past training camp.

[warpaint]

[QUOTE=53Fan;683887]Some of us are putting a pretty high value on JC. That's what fans do. Philly was in a bind with McNabb deciding he wouldn't sign with certain teams. I don't think next years picks were necessary.[/QUOTE]

Hell we might have a strike next year so it might not make a diffrence. I dont want a strike but what does a strike do for next years draft(honest question)?

[53Fan]

[quote=warpaint;683892]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Some of us are putting a pretty high value on JC. That's what fans do. Philly was in a bind with McNabb deciding he wouldn't sign with certain teams. I don't think next years picks were necessary.[/QUOTE]

Hell we might have a strike next year so it might not make a diffrence. I dont want a strike but what does a strike do for next years draft(honest question)?

That's a good question. I honestly don't know right now but there are members who are very well versed in that sort of thing. I'm not one of them.