Campbell will now stay away from Redskins Park

[Audi]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

Let's go back to your list that you composed of what Jason had. I simply said that was irrelevant because of lack of organizational stability. If Vinny & Danny pulled this deal off with McNabb it would be a big disappointment not once since now has Danny had any sense of direction. Allen/Shanny are football minds won Super Bowls they know how to get back there. Danny's only sense of direction was to buy a championship. So if your list of super tools that JC had at his disposal was so relevant explain why Danny doesn't any Super Bowls Titles under his era as owner the past 10 years? It doesn't work that way they were plenty of pieces there that was true, plenty of individual accomplishments but together they sucked as a team from lack of leadership & direction from the owner down to the head coach

If what you're saying is true, then how did the team make the playoffs in 2005 and 2007? No, they did not make the Super Bowl, but they also did not have as horrible a record as with Jason Campbell.

Also, I don't understand how it's the organization's fault when Jason Campbell misses simple reads that have been highlighted ad nauseum. Did Campbell drop back and start thinking about "organizational instability" when Santana Moss or Malcolm Kelly broke wide open?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he forgot the down and distance and decided to check it to a run play to Betts on 3rd and long?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he ran past the line of scrimmage and threw an interception?

I don't think so.

[tryfuhl]

pulled a JC and misread

nvm

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Audi

If what you're saying is true, then how did the team make the playoffs in 2005 and 2007? No, they did not make the Super Bowl, but they also did not have as horrible a record as with Jason Campbell.

Also, I don't understand how it's the organization's fault when Jason Campbell misses simple reads that have been highlighted ad nauseum. Did Campbell drop back and start thinking about "organizational instability" when Santana Moss or Malcolm Kelly broke wide open?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he forgot the down and distance and decided to check it to a run play to Betts on 3rd and long?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he ran past the line of scrimmage and threw an interception?

I don't think so.

Crap, you know what those two points made me ask myself:

Did someone tell Donovan about the new OT rules? Damn I hope he knows we need a TD on the first possession!(in post season)

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Audi

If what you're saying is true, then how did the team make the playoffs in 2005 and 2007? No, they did not make the Super Bowl, but they also did not have as horrible a record as with Jason Campbell.

Also, I don't understand how it's the organization's fault when Jason Campbell misses simple reads that have been highlighted ad nauseum. Did Campbell drop back and start thinking about "organizational instability" when Santana Moss or Malcolm Kelly broke wide open?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he forgot the down and distance and decided to check it to a run play to Betts on 3rd and long?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he ran past the line of scrimmage and threw an interception?

I don't think so.

Ok, what you posted about him missing read and stuff is once again irrelevant to the fact JC didn't lose 12 games by himself either. So when you pick out certain plays out the season as note the Landry double move against the Saints was on JC, Kareem Moore Int- Td error was on JC, Sellers fumble was on JC as well. It's not hard to pick out bad plays everyone had them.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Audi

If what you're saying is true, then how did the team make the playoffs in 2005 and 2007? No, they did not make the Super Bowl, but they also did not have as horrible a record as with Jason Campbell.

They had superb QB play both playoff seasons. In 2005, Mark Brunell, who took over for an injured Patrick Ramsey on opening day, played lights out as did the whole team. MB's stats: 3,050 yards, 23 TD's, 10 INT's...career year for him.

In 2007, Todd Collins won 4 games in a row, beating the cowboys to sneak into the playoffs at 9 and 7. Collins that season had the #2 passer ranking behind only Tom Brady.

With JC we were not getting superb QB play. We were getting barely mediocre play, and that is why the other two guys (Brunell, Collins), were able to do so much more with essentially the same talent...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Audi

If what you're saying is true, then how did the team make the playoffs in 2005 and 2007? No, they did not make the Super Bowl, but they also did not have as horrible a record as with Jason Campbell.

Also, I don't understand how it's the organization's fault when Jason Campbell misses simple reads that have been highlighted ad nauseum. Did Campbell drop back and start thinking about "organizational instability" when Santana Moss or Malcolm Kelly broke wide open?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he forgot the down and distance and decided to check it to a run play to Betts on 3rd and long?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he ran past the line of scrimmage and threw an interception?

I don't think so.

I have no idea if you are being serious or not. I think you are playing all of us for fools.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Audi

If what you're saying is true, then how did the team make the playoffs in 2005 and 2007? No, they did not make the Super Bowl, but they also did not have as horrible a record as with Jason Campbell.

Also, I don't understand how it's the organization's fault when Jason Campbell misses simple reads that have been highlighted ad nauseum. Did Campbell drop back and start thinking about "organizational instability" when Santana Moss or Malcolm Kelly broke wide open?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he forgot the down and distance and decided to check it to a run play to Betts on 3rd and long?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he ran past the line of scrimmage and threw an interception?

I don't think so.

While I haven't read your entire rant, you basically are defending the POS organization we had in order to just prove that Campbell was a bad QB?

Campbell was a bad QB as a result of a combination of his own faults as well as the terrible situation he was put by the front office of this team. Many QBs would have failed under the situations he was in and he didn't have enough talent to overcome them. Plain and simple. A Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees can overcome these things, not an average QB like Campbell.

If you want to feel good about yourself and kick the guy while he's down, feel free to do so. But don't come with this stupid argument that the Cerrato/Snyder regime gave him opportunities to win. The entire Cerrato/Snyder regime was a failure and please don't insult our intelligence by defending it just because you have a petty bias against one player.

[Bakerman]

Jason is a nice man.

We need a QB and I for one don't care if he's nice or not. McNabb is a band-aid for 3 -4- yrs. until Shanny gets who he wants.

Football is not about treating player or fans with respect. I've learned that much ever since Jack Kent Cooke expired.

[skinsfan69]

Not surprising that he's not going to Redskin Park. No big deal. I think what JC is going to find is there isn't a market out there for him to be a starter. Carolina is going w/ Moore, Oakland and Buffalo are maybes but does he really want to go to those two places? Ralph Wilson is nuts and their organization isn't stable. Oakland is a complete joke. IMO his best bet is to come back here and compete w/ Grossman and learn from Shanahan and co.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not surprising that he's not going to Redskin Park. No big deal. I think what JC is going to find is there isn't a market out there for him to be a starter. Carolina is going w/ Moore, Oakland and Buffalo are maybes but does he really want to go to those two places? Ralph Wilson is nuts and their organization isn't stable. Oakland is a complete joke. IMO his best bet is to come back here and compete w/ Grossman and learn from Shanahan and co.

Right now I don't think he's especially interested in Buffalo and Oakland, but who knows. Panthers only made a one year commitment to Moore so he may not be the long-term answer. San Fran is also a possibility, I don't think they're truly committed to Alex Smith

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Right now I don't think he's especially interested in Buffalo and Oakland, but who knows. Panthers only made a one year commitment to Moore so he may not be the long-term answer. San Fran is also a possibility, I don't think they're truly committed to Alex Smith

I hope JC goes to San Fran or the Panthers. Better weather than Buffalo and less dysfunction than Oakland.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I hope JC goes to San Fran or the Panthers. Better weather than Buffalo and less dysfunction than Oakland.

Lol, have you ever been to San Fran?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Lol, have you ever been to San Fran?

I live here. Fog in the summer on the coast, sunny with no rain from May to November, winters last at the most 2 months if you call winter dipping into the 50's or 40's.

[sandtrapjack]

QB's at Redskins Park today:

Donavan McNabb
Sam Bradford
Colt McCoy

QB's at HOME today:
Jason Campbell

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

QB's at Redskins Park today:

Donavan McNabb
Sam Bradford
Colt McCoy

QB's at HOME today:
Jason Campbell

Thanks for that breaking news, slowpoke.