Schefter: "Skins NOT shopping Big Al"

[12thMan]

As far as distractions go, all he has to do is show up! No big deal. Do what you're supposed to do, man. It ain't hard. I'll bet anything from dollars to doughnuts, if he stays and this year's Skins don't live up to it's potential, I'll guarantee you that AH will be the first one bitching and moaning about playing in a 3-4 and how it wasn't a good idea. I can see it coming.

[tryfuhl]

Well I'm glad that you guys have such great inside sources.

[DIE-NASTY]

For me it's more about the principle. Maybe I'm old school but I don't believe in pandering to over-paid athletes. Kemo if he ever gets healthy is an ideal NT (i forgot we'd signed him) but like you said, that's a big if.

[skins89moss]

The Redskins are not trading Hanyesworth unless its for a top 3 draft pick this season. We would have another hole to fill then. We be better off hoping to move Andre Carter and JC and hope to get a least 3rd picks for each. Why do the Redskins every year have limited draft picks. This just doesnt seem to work every year they try this same old crap of giving up draft picks. Maybe Jarmon can start at DE in the 3-4 defense. We look like we just wasted a 3rd pick on him if he can not play in the 3-4 defense.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

The Redskins are not trading Hanyesworth unless its for a top 3 draft pick this season. We would have another hole to fill then. We be better off hoping to move Andre Carter and JC and hope to get a least 3rd picks for each. Why do the Redskins every year have limited draft picks. This just doesnt seem to work every year they try this same old crap of giving up draft picks. Maybe Jarmon can start at DE in the 3-4 defense. We look like we just wasted a 3rd pick on him if he can not play in the 3-4 defense.

What makes you think this? I really am curious why you think our FO would expect that type of compensation. What precedent is there that a team would send a top 3 pick in the first round for a locker room cancer? Granted, Al is talented, arguably the most talented defensive tackle in the league, but he is a huge pain in the ass. I have argued that no team would give us any first round pick for him, let alone a top 3 pick.

I know we fleeced Carolina for Sean Gilbert but the league has changed dramatically since then. If a GM sent us a top 3 pick, they are putting their job on the line for a guy who doesn't give a crap what his coaches want.

For the record, I still want him on the team. I think if you are paying a coach 7.5 million he can figure out a solution with your problem child but I certainly understand where Shanahan is coming from on this.

[SmootSmack]

Top 3 as in Rams, Lions, or Bucs? Can't see that happening.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Top 3 as in Rams, Lions, or Bucs? Can't see that happening.

maybe he means top 3 in the 2nd round? i'd absolutely love to get the lions 2nd round pick. with a whole night to sit on the pick, we'd certainly get all sorts of interesting trade offers. or, if we had the pick, we'd have plenty of time to make sure we were making the best selection.

[SirClintonPortis]

Forcing Haynesworth to play NT is not optimal. When you're paying 100 million dollars to a guy, you don't put him in a position that gives less returns JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ****ING SAID SO. It represents a satisificing attitude, not an optimizing one.

It was the same with Jason Taylor. An undersized pass rusher trying to be a "disciplined" run stuffer that can hold the point of attack? DIDN'T WORK.

[tryfuhl]

Still trying to figure out what makes Al a "locker room cancer." If he's any type of cancer it's probably more of a "coaching staff cancer." You guys act like he's the only one in the league doing what he does. It's not like he's holding out or anything.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Still trying to figure out what makes Al a "locker room cancer." If he's any type of cancer it's probably more of a "coaching staff cancer." You guys act like he's the only one in the league doing what he does. It's not like he's holding out or anything.

He bashes coaches publicly. A new regime comes in and talks team, leadership and everyone being committed and then Al does his own thing. he goes on a radio show and tells the world that he doesn't see himself as a nose tackle. The team cuts him a check for $21 million but he cannot train with the team. One of his defensive teammates asks why he cannot at least join the guys and try the offseason workout. Instead of working out with the team for a week or two and making it look like he is on board he creates a national story and creates a negative perception issue for Shanahan to have to deal with out of the gate.

He isn't the only one in the league doing it, but why can't he at least make it look like he gives a shit about somthing besides himself. Al was one of the first guys to come out and say that things need to be done to prevent the losing but he can't show up for a few weeks to at least make it look like he is on board to prevent another 4-12 season and finish dead effing last in the division for the 3rd year in a row?

One of the consistent criticisms of the last two coaching staffs was that the inmates were running the asylum and he couldn't care less.

I love what he brings as a player but he is obviously a nightmare to deal with. His coaches want him there, his teammates want him there but he just doesn't care.

[53Fan]

This whole idea of signing all-pro players then trying to change what they do to fit your scheme is kinda stupid if you ask me. Pick a scheme, stick with it, and sign the appropriate players. If you're gonna make a change, get the right players for it first.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

This whole idea of signing all-pro players then trying to change what they do to fit your scheme is kinda stupid if you ask me. Pick a scheme, stick with it, and sign the appropriate players. If you're gonna make a change, get the right players for it first.

Unfortunately Shanahan is a 3-4 guy, he's trying to get the appropriate player for that scheme, Haynesworth just doesn't want to switch to NT. Can't blame AH since when he signed he specified a 4-3 D. There was nothing wrong with running a 4-3 which Shanahan should have kept and everyone would be happy.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Unfortunately Shanahan is a 3-4 guy, he's trying to get the appropriate player for that scheme, Haynesworth just doesn't want to switch to NT. Can't blame AH since when he signed he specified a 4-3 D. There was nothing wrong with running a 4-3 which Shanahan should have kept and everyone would be happy.

Good point......That's why I'm hoping Kemo will be ready to go at some point during training camp, maybe that will take a little of the pressure off if Haynesworth is still here.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Unfortunately Shanahan is a 3-4 guy, he's trying to get the appropriate player for that scheme, Haynesworth just doesn't want to switch to NT. Can't blame AH since when he signed he specified a 4-3 D. There was nothing wrong with running a 4-3 which Shanahan should have kept and everyone would be happy.

That's not how it works though.

A new head coach (especially an established and successful one) means new systems, new players, and a new culture.

[internetcareer]

I'm sorry but this is a tired old subject. As I said in a previous post, the most important word here is simply "anymore".

The shopping is over. The defense is being constructed WITH Big Al.