Did Mcnabb open the door for TO?

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

I don't know if I should respond to this thread. If people think T.O. will be the best receiver ever, there's nothing i can do.

I think it's hilarious that the only QB's that he DIDN'T cause problems for was Steve Young and Trent Edwards and that was only because he couldn't argue about not getting the ball enough when Jerry Rice was on the team and with Trent he just wanted a chance to keep his job as he got older.

He threw Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb, Drew Bledsoe, and Tony Romo under the bus and threw hissy fits and so forth, but each time he moved everyone thought, "Oh, well that won't happen here!" then looked all surprised when it did.

But hey, Nobody likes when i bring up the past, so...

YAY! LET'S GET T.O.!!! He and McNabb could NEVER have problems! This is a guaranteed win! No chance of exploding in our faces at all!

I feel ya but like I said I honestly believe T.O. window of opportunity for a Super Bowl Ring is closing due to his age. In 2004, the Eagles Super Bowl run he was 30 now he is 36 big difference not too many more chances if you ask me.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

I feel ya but like I said I honestly believe T.O. window of opportunity for a Super Bowl Ring is closing due to his age. In 2004, the Eagles Super Bowl run he was 30 now he is 36 big difference not too many more chances if you ask me.

It's a tough argument. I mean... if you look at his stats, unlick Donovan or Jason or Santana... the man's numbers are just so constant. if you jsut look at the numbers, the man is amazing!

My biggest issue for him is this... it's not how many catches you make, it's if you make the catches that count! As a Redskins fan i'm sure you remember games where Shawn Springs made him a non factor, but you also remember the games where we only won because he dropped crucial passes on 3rd down. If you make 15 catches for 150 yards, but drop the 10 yarder needed to stay in or win the game, the other catches just don't seem to matter.

36 is ancient for a reciever you know. even the original "Over the hill gang" would be like "Yeah, he's a little old"

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

It's a tough argument. I mean... if you look at his stats, unlick Donovan or Jason or Santana... the man's numbers are just so constant. if you jsut look at the numbers, the man is amazing!

My biggest issue for him is this... it's not how many catches you make, it's if you make the catches that count! As a Redskins fan i'm sure you remember games where Shawn Springs made him a non factor, but you also remember the games where we only won because he dropped crucial passes on 3rd down. If you make 15 catches for 150 yards, but drop the 10 yarder needed to stay in or win the game, the other catches just don't seem to matter.

36 is ancient for a reciever you know. even the original "Over the hill gang" would be like "Yeah, he's a little old"

As for Springs you know him & T.O. are best friends they actually train together in the offseason. Springs has said before we know each other in and out but i have one up on T.O. I am concerned about him not holding onto the ball at critical times as well.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

I don't know if I should respond to this thread. If people think T.O. will be the best receiver ever, there's nothing i can do.

I think it's hilarious that the only QB's that he DIDN'T cause problems for was Steve Young and Trent Edwards and that was only because he couldn't argue about not getting the ball enough when Jerry Rice was on the team and with Trent he just wanted a chance to keep his job as he got older.

He threw Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb, Drew Bledsoe, and Tony Romo under the bus and threw hissy fits and so forth, but each time he moved everyone thought, "Oh, well that won't happen here!" then looked all surprised when it did.

But hey, Nobody likes when i bring up the past, so...

YAY! LET'S GET T.O.!!! He and McNabb could NEVER have problems! This is a guaranteed win! No chance of exploding in our faces at all!

Any other day I would agree with you. In the past I have argued against picking him up. But as someone else said I think he's wanting a ring now or atleast for the past 4 yrs. He's pretty much been a model player. Done what was asked of him.

I can't imagine any player not getting the recognition they deserve. Could you guys see Art Monk making mile stones in his career and the Redskins simply over looking it? Not making a big deal out of it? Not posting it on the jumbo tron? I could see why T.O. would be pissed off. So in turn he wears a jersey just to piss off management, the HC, fellow players, and the fans. What better way to get back at all of them then to wear you best friends jersey?

I'm not saying it wouldn't make waves here either since it's a Dallas jersey, but any other jersey of a player who did well and made it in the HOF would you care or would you look at it as a respect thing? T.O. did it on purpose cause of the classless place Philli is. Hell they practically strip searched a female going through the airport cause she was wearing a Dallas jersey, then commented to her asking how it felt wearing a Dallas jersey in Philli....after the search.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

I don't know if I should respond to this thread. If people think T.O. will be the best receiver ever, there's nothing i can do.

Jesus you're so reactionary. In this short time you've thrown more fits than my last psycho ex. Chill out brotato.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Jesus you're so reactionary. In this short time you've thrown more fits than my last psycho ex. Chill out brotato.

Can we start a new thread about the new topic word "brotato"? That is my new favorite word.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Can we start a new thread about the new topic word "brotato"? That is my new favorite word.

No problem brobrocop, just in the parking lot

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Jesus you're so reactionary. In this short time you've thrown more fits than my last psycho ex. Chill out brotato.

How did you know his first name and how did you know he's Latino?

[Mc2guy]

If you honestly felt that we were one chess piece away from having a super bowl contender, then I would maybe consider picking up TO.

The problem is we are SOOO far away from being a contender at this point, why bother with an over the hill attitude problem like TO. If you look at our current receivers, there is a lot of young up-and-coming talent there in Mitchell, Thomas, and Kelly. Receiver is not our biggest issue IMO, and wasting the time and energy in managing a known locker room cancer like TO is the LAST thing this team needs to distract it.

Boswell said it well in his piece from the Post yesterday, the skins finally have a qb that will allow them to evaluate their receiver talent. We'll know quickly if we have play-makers or bums when #5 tattoo's their chest 30 yards down field. At least wait for a couple of mini-camps to let the coaching staff make their evaluations before going him.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mc2guy

If you honestly felt that we were one chess piece away from having a super bowl contender, then I would maybe consider picking up TO.

The problem is we are SOOO far away from being a contender at this point, why bother with an over the hill attitude problem like TO. If you look at our current receivers, there is a lot of young up-and-coming talent there in Mitchell, Thomas, and Kelly. Receiver is not our biggest issue IMO, and wasting the time and energy in managing a known locker room cancer like TO is the LAST thing this team needs to distract it.

Boswell said it well in his piece from the Post yesterday, the skins finally have a qb that will allow them to evaluate their receiver talent. We'll know quickly if we have play-makers or bums when #5 tattoo's their chest 30 yards down field. At least wait for a couple of mini-camps to let the coaching staff make their evaluations before going him.

LOL, OMG. I tell people we are way off from a SB and need to rebuild and I'm met with ..."no, Allen and Shanahan think we are contenders" "we don't need a Rookie QB cause they are going to try and make a run at it."

I decide to buy into the "hey we are one player away" attitude again since thats the Skins motto and I see "no, we are way too far away from being SB contenders." LOL.

Our oppinions are so far away from each other. It's funny.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

LOL, OMG. I tell people we are way off from a SB and need to rebuild and I'm met with ..."no, Allen and Shanahan think we are contenders" "we don't need a Rookie QB cause they are going to try and make a run at it."

I decide to buy into the "hey we are one player away" attitude again since thats the Skins motto and I see "no, we are way too far away from being SB contenders." LOL.

Our oppinions are so far away from each other. It's funny.

LOL... how true! But here is the truth.
"IF", we were "1" player away from winning the SB, WE WOULD BE IN THE SUPERBOWL!

Most teams that compete in the SB are more than "1" away from the SB. The diff. is they play as "1" UNIT

1 UNIT > 1 PLAYER

LOL...

[REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

LOL, OMG. I tell people we are way off from a SB and need to rebuild and I'm met with ..."no, Allen and Shanahan think we are contenders" "we don't need a Rookie QB cause they are going to try and make a run at it."

I decide to buy into the "hey we are one player away" attitude again since thats the Skins motto and I see "no, we are way too far away from being SB contenders." LOL.

Our oppinions are so far away from each other. It's funny.

Yeah, but the truth is, you never know. The Cardinals came out of no where and damner won the Superbowl. Same for the Saints. Those teams came out of no where.

People saying we are so far away, but this is not the 2009 Skins. This is a new squad. We now have an OFFICIAL coach. Totally new coaching staff. We now have an OFFICIAL QB. That is HUGE.....

Most of the time, we were losing because of the coaching and QB. Not to mention that garbage ass oline. And we are about to start getting this oline tighted up soon. Not saying that the oline is going to be #1 in the league, but I have a feeling our oline is going to be significantly better this year after we are all said done acquiring talent.

We have two new backs, and people can talk about how old they are or whatever, but I think it is safe to say that LJ, WP and CP (if he is here) will be light years better then what we had for the last few seasons (if not further back).

Im not trying to serve kool aid, but you also have to remember that we didnt exactly get blown out every game that we lost last year neither. Our biggest problem last year was our oline and offense in general. And we are significantly addressing those areas right now.

The funny thing is that our defense held it down for us for the most part last year. They werent perfect, but they always kept us in the game. Our offense was just so horrible, they couldnt single handedly win the games. And now we are trying to f--- that up by partially converting to the 3-4. We should leave it alone. Add some aggressiveness to the playcalling, get some LBs so Orakpo can can move to the DE position for good. Throw him in at LB from time to time so confuse the offense a little bit. Thats it, we dont need to give the defense a complete face lift.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Originally Posted by REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE

Yeah, but the truth is, you never know. The Cardinals came out of no where and damner won the Superbowl. Same for the Saints. Those teams came out of no where.

People saying we are so far away, but this is not the 2009 Skins. This is a new squad. We now have an OFFICIAL coach. Totally new coaching staff. We now have an OFFICIAL QB. That is HUGE.....

Most of the time, we were losing because of the coaching and QB. Not to mention that garbage ass oline. And we are about to start getting this oline tighted up soon. Not saying that the oline is going to be #1 in the league, but I have a feeling our oline is going to be significantly better this year after we are all said done acquiring talent.

We have two new backs, and people can talk about how old they are or whatever, but I think it is safe to say that LJ, WP and CP (if he is here) will be light years better then what we had for the last few seasons (if not further back).

Im not trying to serve kool aid, but you also have to remember that we didnt exactly get blown out every game that we lost last year neither. Our biggest problem last year was our oline and offense in general. And we are significantly addressing those areas right now.

The funny thing is that our defense held it down for us for the most part last year. They werent perfect, but they always kept us in the game. Our offense was just so horrible, they couldnt single handedly win the games. And now we are trying to f--- that up by partially converting to the 3-4. We should leave it alone. Add some aggressiveness to the playcalling, get some LBs so Orakpo can can move to the DE position for good. Throw him in at LB from time to time so confuse the offense a little bit. Thats it, we dont need to give the defense a complete face lift.

Oh no they didn't! The saints have been lighting up the scoreboard for years now. There were a Defensive Coordiator away for a SB. The head coach used HIS OWN MONEY to snag some guy name Gregg Williams. Some dumb team let him go, so the Saints now have as aggressive of a Defense as their offense and with the... CRAP! We let him go first, didn't we... Awe man... Let me stop beofre someone throws out the "He's Re-hashing" flag on me again...

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Oh no they didn't! The saints have been lighting up the scoreboard for years now. There were a Defensive Coordiator away for a SB. The head coach used HIS OWN MONEY to snag some guy name Gregg Williams. Some dumb team let him go, so the Saints now have as aggressive of a Defense as their offense and with the... CRAP! We let him go first, didn't we... Awe man... Let me stop beofre someone throws out the "He's Re-hashing" flag on me again...

Its not like we decided Williams was a bad defensive coordinator, so we let him go. We decided not to hire him as a head coach, so there would have been no way to keep him here as a DC.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Mc2guy

If you honestly felt that we were one chess piece away from having a super bowl contender, then I would maybe consider picking up TO.

The problem is we are SOOO far away from being a contender at this point, why bother with an over the hill attitude problem like TO. If you look at our current receivers, there is a lot of young up-and-coming talent there in Mitchell, Thomas, and Kelly. Receiver is not our biggest issue IMO, and wasting the time and energy in managing a known locker room cancer like TO is the LAST thing this team needs to distract it.

Boswell said it well in his piece from the Post yesterday, the skins finally have a qb that will allow them to evaluate their receiver talent. We'll know quickly if we have play-makers or bums when #5 tattoo's their chest 30 yards down field. At least wait for a couple of mini-camps to let the coaching staff make their evaluations before going him.

Valid points.

TO at this point is a hired gun. I too would rather not see a 36 year old WR taking snaps away from our younger guys.