2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Titans willing to move a third-round pick to the Redskins for Haynesworth? | NationalSportsReview.com

I don't care how the coaches would spin it, I will be pissed if they ship out the best DT in the league for a 3rd rounder.

That is cutting off your nose to spite your face and is just plain stupid.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I don't care how the coaches would spin it, I will be pissed if they ship out the best DT in the league for a 3rd rounder.

That is cutting off your nose to spite your face and is just plain stupid.

Agreed.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I don't care how the coaches would spin it, I will be pissed if they ship out the best DT in the league for a 3rd rounder.

That is cutting off your nose to spite your face and is just plain stupid.

Agree! Also ironically, I believe we would give up our 3rd, if we had one for AH in a second.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Agree! Also ironically, I believe we would give up our 3rd, if we had one for AH in a second.

Who wouldn't? I was tilting towards Shanahan on this until I heard the guy on Kornheiser say that Shanny is forcing Haslett to install the 3-4. I think it is fine to move towards a 3-4 but the reason Shanahan was run out of Denver was his failings to build defenses. It is one thing to tell Haslett, "I want to be a 3-4 team in two years". It is completely different to force a 3-4 on your coordinator and run out the best defensive lineman in football on top of that and also render a double digit sack guy useless.

We aren't even 100% positive that we have the linebackers to suceed in the 3-4 and now we are crippling our defensive line? We do not have enough picks to completely revamp a defense and our offense was the main problem last year.

This looks like history repeating itself.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

This looks like history repeating itself.

If they move AH for a 3rd... I would have no choice but to agree with that.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 44ever

If they move AH for a 3rd... I would have no choice but to agree with that.

Best case scenario is if they deal AH to Detroit or TB and get their 2nd rounder, which is like a late 1st rounder. Personally, I want them to get a 1st rounder and then some.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Best case scenario is if they deal AH to Detroit or TB and get their 2nd rounder, which is like a late 1st rounder. Personally, I want them to get a 1st rounder and then some.

Under normal circumstances Haynesworth should command a 1st round pick. His reputation has taken such a hit, there are teams that want him but are reluctant to make a deal, at least not for a 1st.

I just hope the team wont be in such haste to trade him (if they decide too) that they won't receive his value in return.

[DCSportsFan98]

Originally Posted by 44ever

If they move AH for a 3rd... I would have no choice but to agree with that.

3rd? AH is worth a 1st or a package of picks. if the best we can get is a 3rd then id rather keep him

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Who wouldn't? I was tilting towards Shanahan on this until I heard the guy on Kornheiser say that Shanny is forcing Haslett to install the 3-4. I think it is fine to move towards a 3-4 but the reason Shanahan was run out of Denver was his failings to build defenses. It is one thing to tell Haslett, "I want to be a 3-4 team in two years". It is completely different to force a 3-4 on your coordinator and run out the best defensive lineman in football on top of that and also render a double digit sack guy useless.

We aren't even 100% positive that we have the linebackers to suceed in the 3-4 and now we are crippling our defensive line? We do not have enough picks to completely revamp a defense and our offense was the main problem last year.

This looks like history repeating itself.

I have been thinking the exact same thing! A lot of changes taking place simultaneously, maybe too many.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I have been thinking the exact same thing! A lot of changes taking place simultaneously, maybe too many.

Well another way of looking at it is this: Most of us have been fans for our entire lives. We know of all the different schemes put into place just to watch them fall. Were tired of losing and don't want to hang around for another wait and see. We want a contending team as quickly as possible.

MS on the other hand has only been a Skins fan for a few months. He was brought in and expected to make this team a contender. In order for him to get us there as quickly as possible, he needs to make drastic changes as quickly as possible.

If that means 2-3 more years to get there so be it. As MS probably sees it. But in his mind he has a plan and planning to get us there as quickly as possible. IMO.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Who wouldn't? I was tilting towards Shanahan on this until I heard the guy on Kornheiser say that Shanny is forcing Haslett to install the 3-4. I think it is fine to move towards a 3-4 but the reason Shanahan was run out of Denver was his failings to build defenses. It is one thing to tell Haslett, "I want to be a 3-4 team in two years". It is completely different to force a 3-4 on your coordinator and run out the best defensive lineman in football on top of that and also render a double digit sack guy useless.

We aren't even 100% positive that we have the linebackers to suceed in the 3-4 and now we are crippling our defensive line? We do not have enough picks to completely revamp a defense and our offense was the main problem last year.

This looks like history repeating itself.

What guy said that? Was it LaCanfora? Shanahan's not forcing Haslett to run a 3-4. Shahanan hired Haslett because Haslett is well-versed in multiple defenses (including the 3-4 and the 4-3). We'll see a lot of both this year

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What guy said that? Was it LaCanfora? Shanahan's not forcing Haslett to run a 3-4. Shahanan hired Haslett because Haslett is well-versed in multiple defenses (including the 3-4 and the 4-3). We'll see a lot of both this year

SS, stop you're killing the rumor mongering. I hate this time of year, everyone throws out this nonsense regarding interpersonal relations at Redskins Park, as if they have the first clue as to what is going on.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

SS, stop you're killing the rumor mongering. I hate this time of year, everyone throws out this nonsense regarding interpersonal relations at Redskins Park, as if they have the first clue as to what is going on.

By "everyone" are you refering to employees of NFL network? This information came from an analyst speaking during a segment of the Tony Kornheiser show. This isn't, "Hey what if Champ comes back".

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

By "everyone" are you refering to employees of NFL network? This information came from an analyst speaking during a segment of the Tony Kornheiser show. This isn't, "Hey what if Champ comes back".

I mean everyone acting as if hearing an analyst (still unnamed) on a radio show say something means it's gospel. These clowns are just making noise to justify their airtime. Haslett did have to interview for the job and if he took it after being told what the head coach wanted, now's not the time to bitch. But until i see him quoted directly, i'm not buying any division within the new staff over scheme.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What guy said that? Was it LaCanfora? Shanahan's not forcing Haslett to run a 3-4. Shahanan hired Haslett because Haslett is well-versed in multiple defenses (including the 3-4 and the 4-3). We'll see a lot of both this year

I don't know exactly who said it, I missed the introduction of the segment. It was on Kornheiser yesterday.