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[Longtimefan]

[QUOTE=Beemnseven;689271]Gibbs' last season was 9-7. But I agree with what you've said here.

Ultimately, Rocky has been part of a team that has been middle of the pack at best, or downright bad. The personnel that Shanahan and Allen are sifting through are not their guys, they are Vinny's guys.

As far as I'm concerned, 90% of the roster could be completely turned upside down and I wouldn't shed a tear. It's a 4-12 team we're talking about after all.[/QUOTE

I think what most people are shook-up about is the fact that the players whose names have been mentioned in trades, are players that based on where they were drafted we won't get equal compensation for.

Rocky was a 2nd...Jason was a 1st..& AH was a 1st, the 15th player picked. Based on what is being speculated we'll get in return for these players is off the wall. I agree with SFREDSKIN geting in return 4th & 5th rounders is paramount to us just giving them away. Granted we were a 4-12 team last year (though some would argue we're better than that) but we shouldn't just virtually give away our best players.

[GusFrerotte]

[quote=Longtimefan;689312]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Gibbs' last season was 9-7. But I agree with what you've said here.

Ultimately, Rocky has been part of a team that has been middle of the pack at best, or downright bad. The personnel that Shanahan and Allen are sifting through are not their guys, they are Vinny's guys.

As far as I'm concerned, 90% of the roster could be completely turned upside down and I wouldn't shed a tear. It's a 4-12 team we're talking about after all.[/QUOTE

I think what most people are shook-up about is the fact that the players whose names have been mentioned in trades, are players that based on where they were drafted we won't get equal compensation for.

Rocky was a 2nd...Jason was a 1st..& AH was a 1st, the 15th player picked. Based on what is being speculated we'll get in return for these players is off the wall. I agree with SFREDSKIN geting in return 4th & 5th rounders is paramount to us just giving them away. Granted we were a 4-12 team last year (though some would argue we're better than that) but we shouldn't just virtually give away our best players.

We will get decent compensation for JC and AH. No first rounders but maybe a 2nd rounder or two for each. That to me isn't to shabby. AH was the dumbest acquisition that Snyder has ever done for the money he paid out. Even the Bruce Smith deal wasn't half as bad as that. It makes me wonder if the McNabb deal is going to be worth it.

[rbanerjee23]

[quote=GusFrerotte;689328]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

We will get decent compensation for JC and AH. No first rounders but maybe a 2nd rounder or two for each. That to me isn't to shabby. AH was the dumbest acquisition that Snyder has ever done for the money he paid out. Even the Bruce Smith deal wasn't half as bad as that. It makes me wonder if the McNabb deal is going to be worth it.

hahaha you are high off your ass if you think we are getting a "2nd rounder or two for each". We'll be lucky to get anything higher than a 5th for JC and even a 3rd for AH is better than what we've been hearing let alone multiple 2nd rounders

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

hahaha you are high off your ass if you think we are getting a "2nd rounder or two for each". We'll be lucky to get anything higher than a 5th for JC and even a 3rd for AH is better than what we've been hearing let alone multiple 2nd rounders

if we trade ah for draft picks and get anything short of a 1st rounder or a 2nd and another round we will be getting a terrible deal, who ever gets ah is getting him at half price we aleady paid him around 30 mil out of around 42, if we trade him for a 3rd alone that would be one of the most insane trades in the history of the nfl imo

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

if we trade ah for draft picks and get anything short of a 1st rounder or a 2nd and another round we will be getting a terrible deal, who ever gets ah is getting him at half price we aleady paid him around 30 mil out of around 42, if we trade him for a 3rd alone that would be one of the most insane trades in the history of the nfl imo

exactly, which is why I said "what we've been hearing so far"...AH does not have the kind of trade value a player of his caliber should b/c people know he is going to pull this bush league stuff as soon as a situation does not suit him...no team wants to trade a 1st and 2nd round pick for an, albeit supremely talented, player who is going to ditch out the second there is some change he doesn't like... sad reality

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

exactly, which is why I said "what we've been hearing so far"...AH does not have the kind of trade value a player of his caliber should b/c people know he is going to pull this bush league stuff as soon as a situation does not suit him...no team wants to trade a 1st and 2nd round pick for an, albeit supremely talented, player who is going to ditch out the second there is some change he doesn't like... sad reality

According to Shanahan's latest statements on the teams website, Haynesworth is not going to be traded. The only player whose name has been mentioned in trade is Campbell. He said AH decided to do his own thing and it's up to him to prove him wrong. He expects him to come in great shape, and Haslett said AH will play all three positions on the D-line.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

According to Shanahan's latest statements on the teams website, Haynesworth is not going to be traded. The only player whose name has been mentioned in trade is Campbell. He said AH decided to do his own thing and it's up to him to prove him wrong. He expects him to come in great shape, and Haslett said AH will play all three positions on the D-line.

That's not exactly true...Shanahan said that he is not trying to deal Haynesworth but they are listening to offers for him. That means that if the right offer came along, he would trade Haynesworth in a second