AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.

[Defensewins]

The people in the business to sell newspapers or TV media are taking rumor and spinning it like it is fact and some of you guys are swallowing it like it is fact.
Until Shanahan, Allen, Snyder or AH (or his agent) is quoted then it is fact.
If snake oil salesmen like La Canforna and his rumor mongering buddies say it, it is not fact...it is rumor....until it happens.

[diehardskin2982]

I think AH is nothing more than a chip to build this team at this point. Whether he wants to be here or not he is being used to build the roster. I think the redskins will send him to Detroit for their second and something else. They will then draft okung and we will move down using suh as the ammunition and still draft Williams. We will pick up a 3rd in moving down giving us a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and a 7th.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I think AH is nothing more than a chip to build this team at this point. Whether he wants to be here or not he is being used to build the roster. I think the redskins will send him to Detroit for their second and something else. They will then draft okung and we will move down using suh as the ammunition and still draft Williams. We will pick up a 3rd in moving down giving us a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and a 7th.

If we send him to Detroit, they're drafting Okung. Both of their lines would be strengthened then.

[SBXVII]

I just don't get it. I do know you can't have it two ways. Either M.Shanahan is telling the truth or he's not.

Everyone is quick to point out that Shanahan said "T.O. is not in the Redskins plans." Meaning we will not be picking up T.O., but don't hesitate to question the fact that Shanahan said AH is a Redskin and is contracted and will remain a Redskin.

If Shanahan is telling the truth about T.O. then the obvious is also true...AH will not be traded.

Unless Shanahan is lying which means he could be lying about T.O. also. which is it?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I just don't get it. I do know you can't have it two ways. Either M.Shanahan is telling the truth or he's not.

Everyone is quick to point out that Shanahan said "T.O. is not in the Redskins plans." Meaning we will not be picking up T.O., but don't hesitate to question the fact that Shanahan said AH is a Redskin and is contracted and will remain a Redskin.

If Shanahan is telling the truth about T.O. then the obvious is also true...AH will not be traded.

Unless Shanahan is lying which means he could be lying about T.O. also. which is it?

Two different issues are at play here.

TO is a free agent. No need to smoke screen or lie. Just sign him...or not.

AH, on the other hand, may be traded with draft implications. Therefore a smokescreen or lie may be appropriate.

[mlmpetert]

fyi

Report: Haynesworth deal expected now | ProFootballTalk.com

Here's the latest on the $100 million man in list form because my brain is tired and I need to put on some pants and get over to Radio City Music Hall soon.

1. NFL Network's Jason La Canfora's sources is convinced Haynesworth's trade will happen today. And despite Titans coach Jeff Fisher's protestations, he says the most likely destination is Tennessee for a second round pick.

2. The Saints aren't interested. Both the New Orleans Times-Picayune's Jeff Duncan and Jay Glazer of FOX say they Saints don't want him. He even used capital letters to say so:

"They have ZERO interest in Albert. ZERO!!!"

3. Both Haynesworth and the Redskins want a divorce. That doesn't help leverage, so it behooves both sides to float rumors of interest, even if the interest is mild. When both sides want a divorce, the trade usually happens.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

fyi

Report: Haynesworth deal expected now | ProFootballTalk.com

Here's the latest on the $100 million man in list form because my brain is tired and I need to put on some pants and get over to Radio City Music Hall soon.

1. NFL Network's Jason La Canfora's sources is convinced Haynesworth's trade will happen today. And despite Titans coach Jeff Fisher's protestations, he says the most likely destination is Tennessee for a second round pick.

2. The Saints aren't interested. Both the New Orleans Times-Picayune's Jeff Duncan and Jay Glazer of FOX say they Saints don't want him. He even used capital letters to say so:

"They have ZERO interest in Albert. ZERO!!!"

3. Both Haynesworth and the Redskins want a divorce. That doesn't help leverage, so it behooves both sides to float rumors of interest, even if the interest is mild. When both sides want a divorce, the trade usually happens.

PFT + JLC = Fail. This story couldn't be more wrong. We are not trading him. End of story. I'm now going to refer to them as the true liberal media, because while it's nice to hear rumors and the like during the offseason it gets annoying when they're dead wrong. The liberal part comes into play because they're are very Laissez-faire with what they'll use to write a story.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

PFT + JLC = Fail. This story couldn't be more wrong. We are not trading him. End of story. I'm now going to refer to them as the true liberal media, because while it's nice to hear rumors and the like during the offseason it gets annoying when they're dead wrong. The liberal part comes into play because they're are very Laissez-faire with what they'll use to write a story.

Wouldn't that be conservative since they are using very little information, as they try to wish something to be true and claim their theories are actually facts.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

PFT + JLC = Fail. This story couldn't be more wrong. We are not trading him. End of story. I'm now going to refer to them as the true liberal media, because while it's nice to hear rumors and the like during the offseason it gets annoying when they're dead wrong. The liberal part comes into play because they're are very Laissez-faire with what they'll use to write a story.

smoot disagrees

[skinsfan_nn]

Maybe the Viks in play or should I say "hot pursuit" for fat albert....

Vikings in "hot pursuit" of Haynesworth
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 22, 2010 5:12 PM ET
One of the more intriguing draft rumors floating around today involves a new team that may have an interest in acquiring Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth: The Minnesota Vikings.

A league source told PFT that the Vikings are in "hot pursuit" of Haynesworth.

The rumor we heard lines up with something Judd Zulgad of the Star Tribune wrote today, indicating ESPN's John Clayton had mentioned that the Vikings had contacted the Redskins about Haynesworth. Although Redskins coach Mike Shanahan has said there have been no Haynesworth trade talks, most people believe that Haynesworth would be available.

Haynesworth would seem to be a better fit in the Vikings' 4-3 defense than in the new 3-4 that the Redskins are installing. In Minnesota, Haynesworth would join a defensive line that already has defensive tackles Kevin Williams and Pat Williams, both of whom are still potentially facing four-game suspensions over a 2008 positive test for a prescription diuretic.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Maybe the Viks in play or should I say "hot pursuit" for fat albert....

Vikings in "hot pursuit" of Haynesworth
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 22, 2010 5:12 PM ET
One of the more intriguing draft rumors floating around today involves a new team that may have an interest in acquiring Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth: The Minnesota Vikings.

A league source told PFT that the Vikings are in "hot pursuit" of Haynesworth.

The rumor we heard lines up with something Judd Zulgad of the Star Tribune wrote today, indicating ESPN's John Clayton had mentioned that the Vikings had contacted the Redskins about Haynesworth. Although Redskins coach Mike Shanahan has said there have been no Haynesworth trade talks, most people believe that Haynesworth would be available.

Haynesworth would seem to be a better fit in the Vikings' 4-3 defense than in the new 3-4 that the Redskins are installing. In Minnesota, Haynesworth would join a defensive line that already has defensive tackles Kevin Williams and Pat Williams, both of whom are still potentially facing four-game suspensions over a 2008 positive test for a prescription diuretic.

That would be ****ing scary. Borderline insane defense. And I'm not to type to use profanity much.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

That would be ****ing scary. Borderline insanely good defense.

Seriously, him, the Williams and Jared Allen???

[Gmanc711]

Thats interesting.... Do you think there is ANY way that we get their 1st round pick for him?

I'm not really in favor of trading Big Al, but if we're going to, maybe we could at least get some value in this one.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Thats interesting.... Do you think there is ANY way that we get their 1st round pick for him?

I'm not really in favor of trading Big Al, but if we're going to, maybe we could at least get some value in this one.

Wouldn't put too much into the Vikings rumor (or the rumor that McKinnie would be traded to the Redskins).

The only legit contender was the Titans but they had (have?) to get a 2nd to send to us first.

Saints are a long shot.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Wouldn't put too much into the Vikings rumor (or the rumor that McKinnie would be traded to the Redskins).

The only legit contender was the Titans but they had (have?) to get a 2nd to send to us first.

Saints are a long shot.

I'm not in favor of trading Haynesworth either. Afraid we won't get equal value because he should fetch a 1st rounder and I doubt anyone is going to give that for him. Don't want to think we're so disgruntled with him that we'll just give him away because some people are unhappy with his off-season approach.