The Official 2010 NFL Draft Thread: Rounds 4-7

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i love how everyone on here thinks bruce campbell is such an amazing prospect. the guy is yet another project lineman from md. how well has that worked out for us?

The difference is that Campbell has first round speed/agility/athletic ability. You can't coach that, you're born with it. Speaking of project O-linemen, one with adequate size and off the charts athletic ability (Campbell) has a far greater chance to be an impact player than a guy with just size and average athletic ability (Heyer).

Perry Riley will probably be HB Blades - decent backup but lacking as a starter. We had a chance to nail bookend OTs for the next 5+ years ... We blew this one.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

The difference is that Campbell has first round speed/agility/athletic ability. You can't coach that, you're born with it. Speaking of project O-linemen, one with adequate size and off the charts athletic ability (Campbell) has a far greater chance to be an impact player than a guy with just size and average athletic ability (Heyer).

Perry Riley will probably be HB Blades - decent backup but lacking as a starter. We had a chance to nail bookend OTs for the next 5+ years ... We blew this one.

I don't think we blew this. There's a reason Campbell dropped so far. Workout warrior, slighty above average college tackle. Kiper said it will probably be a few years before he has any kind of impact for the Raiders. I'm not saying he won't be a decent player, but to say he would have stepped in right away to give us that "book end" is a stetch IMO.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't think we blew this. There's a reason Campbell dropped so far. Workout warrior, slighty above average college tackle. Kiper said it will probably be a few years before he has any kind of impact for the Raiders. I'm not saying he won't be a decent player, but to say he would have stepped in right away to give us that "book end" is a stetch IMO.

I agree that Campbell would have been a project, but a very athletic one at that. My choice of words was poor, saying he could have given us bookend OT's for the NEXT 5+ years. I should have said 5+ years once he established himself. Perhaps the Riley pick is intended to light a fire under Rocky. Competition is always a good thing.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

The difference is that Campbell has first round speed/agility/athletic ability. You can't coach that, you're born with it. Speaking of project O-linemen, one with adequate size and off the charts athletic ability (Campbell) has a far greater chance to be an impact player than a guy with just size and average athletic ability (Heyer).

Perry Riley will probably be HB Blades - decent backup but lacking as a starter. We had a chance to nail bookend OTs for the next 5+ years ... We blew this one.

I struggle with love for a pick that was passed over several times, projected as a 4th/5th rounder before the combine, and then selected in the 4th round as originally projected. Maybe it will pan out, but just having the ability doesn't make someone a first rounder, in fact I would think just the opposite, if he has all the ability in the world, and can't get it right in college, the chance of "getting it right" in the NFL is less likely.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

The difference is that Campbell has first round speed/agility/athletic ability. You can't coach that, you're born with it. Speaking of project O-linemen, one with adequate size and off the charts athletic ability (Campbell) has a far greater chance to be an impact player than a guy with just size and average athletic ability (Heyer).

Perry Riley will probably be HB Blades - decent backup but lacking as a starter. We had a chance to nail bookend OTs for the next 5+ years ... We blew this one.

Knucklehead athletes with ZOMGWTF atheleticism fail in this league. Bruce Campbell sounds like even more of a football knucklehead than Trent Williams.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Knucklehead athletes with ZOMGWTF atheleticism fail in this league. Bruce Campbell sounds like even more of a football knucklehead than Trent Williams.

Are you implying that Williams might be a knucklehead?

[Dirtbag59]

I want to pull my best Smootsmack impression and say I told you so:

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Look out for Myron Rolle. Redskins are looking for another Center Fielder. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if they passed on a tackle and drafted either a LB, RB, or FS. I mean I know Vinny isn't here any more but I don't think they feel the solution is to simply draft a bunch of lineman.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Are you implying that Williams might be a knucklehead?

When it comes to football, yes, he SOUNDS like it. I limit the scope of the label. He could be smart at other subjects, hence I don't overgeneralize.

If someone displays tremendous atheleticism but his play is inconsistent at best and most certainly not dominant, then you're dealing with someone who is lacking in football instincts or is ill-equipped mentally to handle the game.