Did We Shoot Ourselves In The Foot??

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Do the Skins play the Jets this year?

Only in the Super Bowl.... but the Jets wont get there

[TheMalcolmConnection]

You also have to think about what kind of message that sends though? You can sit on your ass and bitch and when we win we'll put you back in like nothing happened?

[CRT3]

Sit and pout on the bench??? Come on that does a team more harm then good. We could have just had him give us the 5 million back and release him and taken that money to shore up with 2- players versus taking Moss. But I think the prevailing thought was to start getting the Cap ready for 2006. My question about Cerrato is what has he done to hurt the team. We have been ahead of everybody in terms of the free agent thing for many years now. Our cap is right at the limit. Revenue for the Skins is up which plays a part in their thinking. So why the fuss?

[Daseal]

I agree with Tahoe - I don't feel trading Coles was a good idea. He wasn't happy last year either, was he driving the locker room apart? We heard nothing that said or hinted at that. That cap hit is absolutely massive and handcuffed us. Not to mention it left us with a very average receiver with one year left on his contract.

[Daseal]

Redskins P - Financially the trade didn't make sense. 9.3 for a player we don't even have this season. I'd rather have the 5 mil in cap room!

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Redskins P - Financially the trade didn't make sense. 9.3 for a player we don't even have this season. I'd rather have the 5 mil in cap room!

Me too, but why give him what he wants?

Maybe I'm just pissed about the whole situation. Trust me, I wasn't happy about the trade either, but then I thought about it and said fuck him. He doesn't want to be here.....let him go.

[SkinsRock]

Did We Shoot Ourselves In The Foot??

No, we just cut off a bad toe.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by SkinsRock

Did We Shoot Ourselves In The Foot??

No, we just cut off a bad toe.

Classic!

[SkinsRock]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Classic!

Just thought this thread could use a little humor!

[Daseal]

Me too, but why give him what he wants?

But he wanted a trade.

[SkinsRock]

Originally Posted by Daseal

But he wanted a trade.

No, he wanted to be released. That's why he said the Skins reneged on the agreement and demanded a new contract from his new team...to make things difficult.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Daseal

But he wanted a trade.

Didn't he ask to be released? Thats why we didn't release him because we wanted something in return.

[Redskins_P]

Tahoe, please read this article. This is why I'm glad that LC is gone. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...les/index.html

[Tahoe Skin]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Tahoe, please read this article. This is why I'm glad that LC is gone. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...les/index.html

Good story. Thanks. It's nice to hear Coles' story upfront. However, that doesn't change my opinion.

Don't get me wrong. I don't blame Coles for wanting to leave. If I was in his shoes, I would want to leave too! No changing the fact that our offense stinks, and like Coles, I have my doubts that our offensive scheme will improve much at all next year (particularly now that we have no Cap room to get a few more quality players on offense). Yes, I NEVER blamed Coles for wanting to leave, even though I see me wasting more money for another frustrating year of DirecTV.

And don't misunderstand me. I'm a huge Gibbs fan for what he did in the past, and for what he's trying to do now. And I'm also a big Snyder supporter for all the money he spends trying to make my favorite team better. Yes, I'm a true Redskin faithful. But that doesn't change my opinion that Snyder and Gibbs screwed up. And you can't blame Vinnie either. Responsibility lies at the top.

And don't think I don't understand where you're coming from. I was never opposed to getting rid of Coles if that's what he wanted. What I'm disgusted about is the way it was done; the way we let Coles have his way at the expense of our Cap. A $9.3 million Cap hit is devastating. You can't deny that! I'm a contracts lawyer, and while I admit that there may be something pertinent here about NFL contracts that I'm not aware of, I'm still incredulous about how poorly this was negotiated! I'm still looking for a good reason as to how this benefits us. Somebody please tell me! Surely, a straight-up Coles for Moss swap doesn't benefit us greatly - if at all. But when you consider the $9.3 million Cap hit we took, the $5 million check we have to write the Jets next year, and the No. 1 draft choice we gave up in getting Coles, My God: We got royally screwed! It's monumental stupidity. That's up there right behind the Vikings giving up 11 players for Herschel Walker.

My point is: If I had been Snyder (as owner and chief of personnel or whatever he is), or Coach Gibbs (as Prez), you tell Coles I don't care what you were told. If you want out, Buddy, you've got to renegotiate your contract to avoid a devastating hit to my team. Otherwise, go look at that big screen I bought you and SHUT THE F___ UP!!!!!

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but benching a disgruntled Coles would have cost the Skins only about $1.3 million a year for the next 3 years. That's a lot better than $9.3 mil this year. UNBELIEVEABLE!!

What will be interesting to me is to hear player reaction. How do the players REALLY feel about having the money it would have taken to improve ourself this season heading on a downtown train to New York?

Yours truly.
Relaxed but Still Incredulous

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Tahoe Skin

Good story. Thanks. It's nice to hear Coles' story upfront. However, that doesn't change my opinion.

Don't get me wrong. I don't blame Coles for wanting to leave. If I was in his shoes, I would want to leave too! No changing the fact that our offense stinks, and like Coles, I have my doubts that our offensive scheme will improve much at all next year (particularly now that we have no Cap room to get a few more quality players on offense). Yes, I NEVER blamed Coles for wanting to leave, even though I see me wasting more money for another frustrating year of DirecTV.

And don't misunderstand me. I'm a huge Gibbs fan for what he did in the past, and for what he's trying to do now. And I'm also a big Snyder supporter for all the money he spends trying to make my favorite team better. Yes, I'm a true Redskin faithful. But that doesn't change my opinion that Snyder and Gibbs screwed up. And you can't blame Vinnie either. Responsibility lies at the top.

And don't think I don't understand where you're coming from. I was never opposed to getting rid of Coles if that's what he wanted. What I'm disgusted about is the way it was done; the way we let Coles have his way at the expense of our Cap. A $9.3 million Cap hit is devastating. You can't deny that! I'm a contracts lawyer, and while I admit that there may be something pertinent here about NFL contracts that I'm not aware of, I'm still incredulous about how poorly this was negotiated! I'm still looking for a good reason as to how this benefits us. Somebody please tell me! Surely, a straight-up Coles for Moss swap doesn't benefit us greatly - if at all. But when you consider the $9.3 million Cap hit we took, the $5 million check we have to write the Jets next year, and the No. 1 draft choice we gave up in getting Coles, My God: We got royally screwed! It's monumental stupidity. That's up there right behind the Vikings giving up 11 players for Herschel Walker.

My point is: If I had been Snyder (as owner and chief of personnel or whatever he is), or Coach Gibbs (as Prez), you tell Coles I don't care what you were told. If you want out, Buddy, you've got to renegotiate your contract to avoid a devastating hit to my team. Otherwise, go look at that big screen I bought you and SHUT THE F___ UP!!!!!

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but benching a disgruntled Coles would have cost the Skins only about $1.3 million a year for the next 3 years. That's a lot better than $9.3 mil this year. UNBELIEVEABLE!!

What will be interesting to me is to hear player reaction. How do the players REALLY feel about having the money it would have taken to improve ourself this season heading on a downtown train to New York?

Yours truly.
Relaxed but Still Incredulous

Good post Tahoe, and I understand what you're saying.

Like I said, we'll have to wait and see how much this will effect us on the field. Financially, yes we got a big stick up our ass. You're right about that.