Albert Haynesworth and His Trainer

[The Goat]

The notion that Albert is simply lazy, and therefor skipping voluntary workouts, is...effing retarded. By all accounts he's using his own money (I'm sure all that individual training doesn't come cheap) to be in top condition for this season.

I mean this Haynesworth controversy has really been cast in the wrong light IMHO. Look,we've got the most dominant defensive player in the game on our roster, and he's committed to being the best he's ever been. The real controversy is why our coaching staff isn't building the defense around Haynesworth.

- By keeping the 4-3 system we would be just a player or two away from sheer dominance. A legit top FS alone would probably have been enough.

- The defensive roster (still) doesn't look like a 3-4 defense on the verge of greatness. Most of our guys are tailor made for the 4-3...like big Al.

- The notion Shanny/Haslett can devise such a brilliant 3-4 scheme that they can 1) waist the best defensive player in football and 2) basically go against the grain of the roster, and somehow expect a better outcome than simply shoring up a position or two in the 4-3, is r i d i c u l o u s.

[beau_str]

are you serious? please look at the history and the facts. he played hard in a contract year, played when he felt like it last year, and has created controversy this year. weather you want to accept it or not he was shopped for a late 1st round pick in this draft and nobody wanted any parts.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by beau_str

are you serious? please look at the history and the facts. he played hard in a contract year, played when he felt like it last year, and has created controversy this year. weather you want to accept it or not he was shopped for a late 1st round pick in this draft and nobody wanted any parts.

Haynesworth's last two years in Tennessee were his best years, so not just his last year. Whether it was money driven or not, the guy has talent. While players have responsibility of their own, people like you that complain about someone like Haynesworth, fails to forget the terrible state of our front office and coaching staff last year. Our team has repeatedly shown to acquire players and fail to use them to the best of their ability. Yet despite being out of shape, AH was a force in the defensive line and made that part of the defense much better. It didn't win games, but that's on the defensive coaches and not AH, he came and did his job, resulting in Orakpo and Carter getting a ton of sacks.

Personally, I think people need to get over the fact that Vinny and Snyder gave Haynesworth a $100 mil contract and brought him to a team with poor leadership and discipline. I have the sense that a lot of people hate Haynesworth and bitch about him because they can't get over that. Just get over it, that was a terrible decision by the team, and he was brought over to a team that was going to lose no matter what. Haynesworth has put a lot on his shoulders by making the decision to work out on his own, and prove that last year was just the result of the terrible situation that this team was. Now he needs to prove that to the coaching staff.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by beau_str

are you serious? please look at the history and the facts. he played hard in a contract year, played when he felt like it last year, and has created controversy this year. weather you want to accept it or not he was shopped for a late 1st round pick in this draft and nobody wanted any parts.

either back it up.. or back it up bro

[beau_str]

and your points a,b,and c are yet to be seen. so those are just opinions.

[tootergray34]

I care most about what he produces on the field...I hope that he is a monster at us for NT or end or wherever we place him this season. he just needs to be disruptive to free up the RAK! he may not be happy playing NT...but hey...i'm sure he'll do just fine. What should he care where he plays anyways? If his ultimate goal is winning a championship he should focus on what to do that is best for the team.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

I care most about what he produces on the field...I hope that he is a monster at us for NT or end or wherever we place him this season. he just needs to be disruptive to free up the RAK! he may not be happy playing NT...but hey...i'm sure he'll do just fine. What should he care where he plays anyways? If his ultimate goal is winning a championship he should focus on what to do that is best for the team.

"So nothing against them or whatever but if I want to get back to being the best defensive tackle in the NFL then I need to do this." - AH

[GTripp0012]

Bad teams/organizations tend to pin their failures on their best players, and in my opinion, our best players last season were Jason Campbell on offense, and Albert Haynesworth on defense.

Good organizations would stick together and quietly fix the problems. Just a heads up if Donovan McNabb and Brian Orakpo start getting blamed for our struggles next year.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Bad teams/organizations tend to pin their failures on their best players, and in my opinion, our best players last season were Jason Campbell on offense, and Albert Haynesworth on defense.

Good organizations would stick together and quietly fix the problems. Just a heads up if Donovan McNabb and Brian Orakpo start getting blamed for our struggles next year.

I want to like this post. I really do. And not that I'm questioning you, but can you throw out a few examples of "bad teams/organizations tend(ing) to pin their failures on their best players." ??

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I want to like this post. I really do. And not that I'm questioning you, but can you throw out a few examples of "bad teams/organizations tend(ing) to pin their failures on their best players." ??

The most immediate examples I'm coming up with are actually in other sports: Cubs blamed Milton Bradley for their failures last year, Royals blamed Alex Gordon, the Suns were trying to deal Amari Stoudamire for the longest time.

I guess some examples of this happening in football would be what the Jags did w/Byron Leftwich, the Lions did with Shaun Rogers, the Broncos with anything they've done in the past two years, the Jets with Chad Pennington and John Abraham before him, Cowboys (fans) with Tony Romo, the Bills with Trent Edwards, the Eagles with Terrell Owens, the Cardinals with Thomas Jones, three different teams with Kurt Warner, and really, the Redskins with every quarterback of the last decade.

I don't really like any of my football examples because they all have dual reasoning, but I think a big reason is that if you're a productive player on a dysfunctional team, it's easy to just blame the most publicized players than to quietly address what's actually wrong. I think if Shanahan and Allen are going to be successful, the first thing they have to do is refrain from alienating our best players. Which is why this Haynesworth thing, while completely overblown by the media, really doesn't make a lick of sense.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't really like any of my football examples because they all have dual reasoning, but I think a big reason is that if you're a productive player on a dysfunctional team, it's easy to just blame the most publicized players than to quietly address what's actually wrong. I think if Shanahan and Allen are going to be successful, the first thing they have to do is refrain from alienating our best players. Which is why this Haynesworth thing, while completely overblown by the media, really doesn't make a lick of sense.

This morning I tuned in to ESPN980 to hear their post draft coverage. Instead I got Kevin Sheehan and Andy Pollin bitching and whining about Haynesworth. I swear, I am done with those guys. It's like, get the f'ck over it already. How 'bout you actually talk about the draft and the players we got? I can understand fans bitching about something they don't know much about, but sheesh, it's just getting very tired to hear the same shit over and over again.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

This morning I tuned in to ESPN980 to hear their post draft coverage. Instead I got Kevin Sheehan and Andy Pollin bitching and whining about Haynesworth. I swear, I am done with those guys. It's like, get the f'ck over it already. How 'bout you actually talk about the draft and the players we got? I can understand fans bitching about something they don't know much about, but sheesh, it's just getting very tired to hear the same shit over and over again.

You must have just caught them when they were talking about Haynesworth. They talked about the draft quite a bit.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

This morning I tuned in to ESPN980 to hear their post draft coverage. Instead I got Kevin Sheehan and Andy Pollin bitching and whining about Haynesworth. I swear, I am done with those guys. It's like, get the f'ck over it already. How 'bout you actually talk about the draft and the players we got? I can understand fans bitching about something they don't know much about, but sheesh, it's just getting very tired to hear the same shit over and over again.

well it had to be better than tony konrheiser this morning. i kid you not. turn on his show and they are talking about how one of his co-hosts (kim) son is going to do their draft recap and analysis. the kid is 5 years old. she goes on saying how all he does in analyze football, that he predicted bradford to the rams and that tebow is his favorit player and that he knew tebow was changing his throwing motion. anyways, kim the mom, cant blame her, does the typical "oh my son is soo smart, he even knows who sam bradford is!" yada yada.

then tonly goes on to say the skins did well by trading campbell for a 5th round pick next year. tony k was zero interest following sports anymore, the man thinks hes hollywood now.

every day i give the man a chance, every time without fail i have to change the dial within a minute.

[tootergray34]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Bad teams/organizations tend to pin their failures on their best players, and in my opinion, our best players last season were Jason Campbell on offense, and Albert Haynesworth on defense.

Good organizations would stick together and quietly fix the problems. Just a heads up if Donovan McNabb and Brian Orakpo start getting blamed for our struggles next year.

your right on the offensive side...but london was our defensive player...and after him carter...and then orakpo...

[tryfuhl]

Thanks for taking the time to look this up and post it.