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Old 04-26-2010, 03:07 PM   #1
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His Redskins legacy will be one of great disappointment. Is he a good guy? Sure. Was he a solid QB? Certainly. But, and I understand it's not entirely his fault, we paid a hefty price for a guy who was hardly a contributor to our two playoff teams in the six years he was here. And while I understand circumstances weren't always great around him, I think too many of us looked to that as an excuse for JC's underperforming.

I just can't wait for TO to sign with the Raiders so we can finally see Campbell to Owens
So if Campbell was here six years, does that mean he dressed up like Patrick Ramsey for all of the 2004 season? If so, then what happened to the real Patrick Ramsey?
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:10 PM   #2
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So if Campbell was here six years, does that mean he dressed up like Patrick Ramsey for all of the 2004 season? If so, then what happened to the real Patrick Ramsey?
I'm guilty of saying six years sometimes too, only because he was with us for part of the 2010 campaign, at least in the off-season.

2005: Didn't start. Brunell goes to playoffs
2006: Took over for Brunell after 9 games
2007: Got Hurt. Collins goes to playoffs
2008: Bah
2009: Bah.
2010: Team Drafts McNabb, Campbell relegated to backup.
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:23 PM   #3
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His Redskins legacy will be one of great disappointment. Is he a good guy? Sure. Was he a solid QB? Certainly. But, and I understand it's not entirely his fault, we paid a hefty price for a guy who was hardly a contributor to our two playoff teams in the six years he was here. And while I understand circumstances weren't always great around him, I think too many of us looked to that as an excuse for JC's underperforming.

I just can't wait for TO to sign with the Raiders so we can finally see Campbell to Owens
I think this pretty much sums up my thoughts as well. He was nowhere as good as his supporters thought he could be and nowhere as bad as his detractors thought he was. I hope he does well in Oakland because he's a class act and I think he can have moderate success. He will likely end up playing another 8 or so years bouncing around the league as a spot starter or platoon backup.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:34 PM   #4
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His Redskins legacy will be one of great disappointment. Is he a good guy? Sure. Was he a solid QB? Certainly. But, and I understand it's not entirely his fault, we paid a hefty price for a guy who was hardly a contributor to our two playoff teams in the six years he was here. And while I understand circumstances weren't always great around him, I think too many of us looked to that as an excuse for JC's underperforming.

I just can't wait for TO to sign with the Raiders so we can finally see Campbell to Owens
Owens would make JC a super star:cool-smil
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:58 PM   #5
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Great guy, not a great QB. The bottom line is that if he was good and had success, there wouldn't have been so much turnover in the coordinator or coaching positions. The guy can't make the quick decisions that it takes to be successful in the NFL. Hell, he got hurt and Todd Collins led us to the playoffs. Also, Tom Cable says that Campbell isn't guaranteed the starting role, so we will have to see how that pans out.

Tom Cable says Jason Campbell shouldn't assume he'll start | ProFootballTalk.com
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:59 PM   #6
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he will be forgotten in time
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:00 PM   #7
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For the next generation of serious fans like us I think he'll just be cited as the guy Joe Gibbs brought in as his franchise qb of the future. Otherwise, my guess is that he'll fall into such obscurity that there will not be enough to remember about him in 10-15 years.

I don't think he'll have a poor career from here out, just not a particularly noteworthy one. I see him getting to the playoffs w/the raiders in 2011-12, then looking for a new deal. I don't see him going on to have the success that Trent Green or Brad Johnson did after leaving us.
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:38 PM   #8
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Re: What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be?

Who is this Jason Campbell you refer to???

But in all serious, JC has been a great sport through everything he has been put through. But what has he done on the field? I was never onboad with drafting him as we saw what he really is, a middle of the pack qb. Nothing exciting about him. He cant put a team on his back and get a win. I wish him the best in Oakland, he'll need it.
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:03 PM   #9
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Campbell was on some really terrible Redskin teams. Once Samuels and Thomas got injured, the offensive line that was left last year was one of the worst Redskins offensive lines in recent memory. Zorn's short pass west coast offense (LOL!) was not to his strength either.

It will be interesting to see how he does with the Raiders long vertical passing game. They have some speed and talent at the skill positions in Oakland. Just like in DC the O-line will tell the tale.
He still has a chance to be a very good QB. I will root for him
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:04 PM   #10
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well, one legacy argument could be that he is the guy coach gibbs made a huge mistake on, maybe his greatest player evaluation mistake.

JC is an average QB at best, down right boring to watch at worst.

wish the man well, he seems to be a great person.
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Old 04-26-2010, 04:14 PM   #11
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well, one legacy argument could be that he is the guy coach gibbs made a huge mistake on, maybe his greatest player evaluation mistake.

JC is an average QB at best, down right boring to watch at worst.

wish the man well, he seems to be a great person.
That would have to be Loyd & Arch in the debacle of 2006.

I'll always stand by Gibbs' decision to get JC. We can disagree about what we gave up, but I never thought it was too much when you're trying to land the qb of the future.

Of all the 'what-ifs' of JC's career, I think one of the biggest was Gibbs leaving early. What if he'd stayed one more year? The Gibbs/Saunders O was more suited to JC. Gibbs picked a qb that HE thought he could win with, but that's much different than a qb that Jim Zorn can win with.

Gibbs won w/Mark Rypien, probably the worst qb to ever win a super bowl. Gibbs felt he could win w/JC, maybe he could've in due time.
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That would have to be Loyd & Arch in the debacle of 2006.

I'll always stand by Gibbs' decision to get JC. We can disagree about what we gave up, but I never thought it was too much when you're trying to land the qb of the future.

Of all the 'what-ifs' of JC's career, I think one of the biggest was Gibbs leaving early. What if he'd stayed one more year? The Gibbs/Saunders O was more suited to JC. Gibbs picked a qb that HE thought he could win with, but that's much different than a qb that Jim Zorn can win with.

Gibbs won w/Mark Rypien, probably the worst qb to ever win a super bowl. Gibbs felt he could win w/JC, maybe he could've in due time.
Not to quibble or get the thread off track, but Big Ben had the worst Super Bowl game ever vs Seattle by a starting QB.
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JC is an average QB at best, down right boring to watch at worst.
For me, this about sums it up.

He made we want to leave my seat and go get a $5 soda more than anyone else in the history of Fedex Field.

The only thing I could be sure to miss if JC was behind center was a punt.
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Re: What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be?

I really feel like he will go the way of other redskins qb's/draft busts. A la Ramsey, Schuler, Wuerrful, Matthews, etc. How many of us talk about them now?

He was a barely mediocre passer who was careful with the ball, and didn't make decisions that would hurt the team. He may have been too cautious, but he was a good game manager who could preserve a win if the overall team was playing lights out. He makes me think of a poor man's Kerry Collins.

If Jason doesn't win the starting job, and Tom Cable says now there is no reason to assume that the job is his, he will have a good career as a primary backup. He always has a positive attitude and prepares for the game well. He just came up a little too short in the talent department to be a serious NFL starter. I could be wrong. Time will tell.

I'll never understand why Gibbs drafted him when it was clear that Gibbs wasn't going to be here long enough in his second go-around to develop a QB for the future.
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I'll never understand why Gibbs drafted him when it was clear that Gibbs wasn't going to be here long enough in his second go-around to develop a QB for the future.
Gibbs and Campbell were together for 3 years. If Gibbs had stayed for the duration of his 5 year contract, it would have been 4. Thats plenty of time to develop a quality 1st round quarterback before riding off into the sunset. The problem was, Campbell was not a quality quarterback. I honestly think that If Gibbs didn't bring in Al Saunders, there's a good chance the redskins would have been more successful. Heck, if Gibbs had had the foresight to bring in a "real" GM to make personnel decisions, the skins would probably be the best team in the NFC East right now.
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