Arizona's New Immigration Law

[MTK]

What's wrong with some blatant racial profiling?

[Trample the Elderly]

I don't understand why the illegal aleins are upset over this law? It's not like they paid any attention to the law to begin with, hence the term "illegal".

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

What's wrong with some blatant racial profiling?

The law "prevents" you from doing that though...the question I have is if nearly 30 percent of Arizonians are Hispanic how will they tell legals from illegals without profiling? What does profiling mean really? And how does it help?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

The law "prevents" you from doing that though...the question I have is if nearly 30 percent of Arizonians are Hispanic how will they tell legals from illegals without profiling? What does profiling mean really? And how does it help?

It means Saudi Arabian men are more likely to fly a plane into a building than Roman Catholic Nuns.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by saden1

The law "prevents" you from doing that though...the question I have is if nearly 30 percent of Arizonians are Hispanic how will they tell legals from illegals without profiling? What does profiling mean really? And how does it help?

actually, the law allows "hispanic profiling" along US territories along the border. im not sure how far this area extends into the US but i know ive been stopped a few times near the border for nothing other than driving thru the desert near the border. one time we got lost, ended up at a checkpoint and border patrol told us we had crossed into mexico then back again. they locked us up, i was in a small cell with a bucket to piss and shit in. the border patrol, how do we say, found some things. after an hour they decided to let us go, went back out to my car and everything in it was tossed all around my car.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

The law "prevents" you from doing that though...the question I have is if nearly 30 percent of Arizonians are Hispanic how will they tell legals from illegals without profiling? What does profiling mean really? And how does it help?

Well people seem to leave off the point that the officer must first have a reason for pulling the person over or approaching them. When they ask for a form of ID if the person does not have one then the officer is now required to follow up and either see documintation or take the person in. I don't see what the big deal is. I have been pulled without an driver lic. and in a matter of a minute or two a cop can verify who I am. Now if I'm an illegal I guess the cop will not be able to do this and thus your sent packing.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well people seem to leave off the point that the officer must first have a reason for pulling the person over or approaching them. When they ask for a form of ID if the person does not have one then the officer is now required to follow up and either see documintation or take the person in. I don't see what the big deal is. I have been pulled without an driver lic. and in a matter of a minute or two a cop can verify who I am. Now if I'm an illegal I guess the cop will not be able to do this and thus your sent packing.

How do you define "reasonably suspect"? And exactly what does an illegal immigrant look like anyways?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

How do you define "reasonably suspect"? And exactly what does an illegal immigrant look like anyways?

i did not use the term "reasonaby suspect" in my response. Whe are you getting that from the liberal media.

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by firstdown

i did not use the term "reasonaby suspect" in my response. Whe are you getting that from the liberal media.

ha, the "liberal media," that's the biggest myth there is....
but that's another thread.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

i did not use the term "reasonaby suspect" in my response. Whe are you getting that from the liberal media.

What does liberal media have to do with my reply? The liberal media didn't write the law. LOL You're a piece a work sometimes

Here's what the provision in the law actually reads:
"For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency…where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person…"