Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I wonder if the marine life in the gulf like all that change. Can we oil up the gulf to get our climate change legislation through? Yes we can!

[Trample the Elderly]

Anyone who thinks this problem couldn't be solved in 24 hours isn't using the brain power that God gave a shrew. They can fix a satellite going around the Earth at a million miles an hour, yet they can't remove a coupler and place a new one on? How do you think the astronauts train to fix satellites in space?

No one is this incompetent! This is being done on purpose. If you can't see that, we'll I don't know? Go drink a beer and watch the world cup with the rest of the sheeple. Either that or I'm sure there's a new episode of American Idolatry or Real Skanks of New Jersey on tonight?

I thought Washington fans were more educated than the average fan?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Anyone who thinks this problem couldn't be solved in 24 hours isn't using the brain power that God gave a shrew. They can fix a satellite going around the Earth at a million miles an hour, yet they can't remove a coupler and place a new one on? How do you think the astronauts train to fix satellites in space?

No one is this incompetent! This is being done on purpose. If you can't see that, we'll I don't know? Go drink a beer and watch the world cup with the rest of the sheeple. Either that or I'm sure there's a new episode of American Idolatry or Real Skanks of New Jersey on tonight?

I thought Washington fans were more educated than the average fan?

Woo, woo, wo. Are you from Varina or do you live off Three Chopt? Are you a West Ender?

[budw38]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i never said that lives aren't at stake. but during the Katrina disaster, the response time had to be immediate, because people were literally drowning. and that's why W was hammered. that, and the fact he had an unqualified friend running FEMA

Bush had Admin. official in La. 3 days proir to Hurricane Katrina Gov. Kathleen Blanco: No State of Emergency The Dumbocrat Gov. REFUSED the Nat Guard and refused to order an emergency Evacuation , not the power of the Fed . Gov't . How much blame does Gov. Blanco deserve? - NBC News Investigates- msnbc.com Gov praying we will be fine , we need no evacuation ..... smart move Gov = FAIL .Controversy over whether New Orleans Mayor failed to follow hurricane plan - Wikinews, the free news source By the way , how many days did this Admin. take until it had officials in the gulf ... care to guess .

[dmek25]

budw38, by your logic, this mess is a result of Republican Gov. Jindal?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

budw38, by your logic, this mess is a result of Republican Gov. Jindal?

How'd you come to that conclusion?

[budw38]

Originally Posted by dmek25

budw38, by your logic, this mess is a result of Republican Gov. Jindal?

Dude , I love you like my bother , but what are you talking about ? I have not blamed any politician for either Hurricane K. or the BP oil disaster , however , in response to your earlier post , the Bush Admin. did attempt to get the Gov. < Blanco > to order an evacuation , which she refused < I provided links above >. As far as this Admin. I have never been critical of the handling of the BP mess . We can water board the CEO of BP and I would support that 100 % .

[MTK]

I think we're getting dangerously close to being all stocked up on crazy round here.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think we're getting dangerously close to being all stocked up on crazy round here.

Look, take away the aspect that there might be an agenda behind this.

It's very simple.

Basic Plumbing 101:

1. Unscrew the bolts holding the couplers together.

2. Take off the damaged pipe.

3. Have another pipe with a relief valve on it and the bolts pre-welded in ready. Make sure the relief valve is open so the pressure from the oil will not blow off the new pipe.

4. Bolt on the new pipe.

5. Close the relief valve.

Problem solved.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Look, take away the aspect that there might be an agenda behind this.

It's very simple.

Basic Plumbing 101:

1. Unscrew the bolts holding the couplers together.

2. Take off the damaged pipe.

3. Have another pipe with a relief valve on it and the bolts pre-welded in ready. Make sure the relief valve is open so the pressure from the oil will not blow off the new pipe.

4. Bolt on the new pipe.

5. Close the relief valve.

Problem solved.

Only problem, that's one big ass reservoir of oil. For all we know we may have tapped into the an infinite reservoir of oil beneath the oceans. We don't know. It's obvious when you have a huge body of liquid under the pressure of the earth's crust squeezing the oil out. The oil is not flowing out it is under pressure so a valve will not be strong enough. We have to match that pressure to stop the flow. I don't think the relief well will work either. This is biblical.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Look, take away the aspect that there might be an agenda behind this.

It's very simple.

Basic Plumbing 101:

1. Unscrew the bolts holding the couplers together.

2. Take off the damaged pipe.

3. Have another pipe with a relief valve on it and the bolts pre-welded in ready. Make sure the relief valve is open so the pressure from the oil will not blow off the new pipe.

4. Bolt on the new pipe.

5. Close the relief valve.

Problem solved.

Your idea would indeed work if it wasn't for the fact that the well casing itself was damaged during the top-kill operation.

The actual well casing itself is now damaged, and oil is leaking from it up through the sea floor. That's why BP gave up on the idea of installing a new blowout preventer. The pressure from having the wellhead suddenly closed would blowout what is left of the well casing, leaving a leak way worse and with no way to fix it.

And to joetheismanfan -- all of your points are correct. When Bill Nye the science guy was on TV, he explained that even though wells only produce typically for 5 to 10 years, the level of oil in this macondo well, while not infinite, has the potential to flow for the next 100 years.

A relief well is also not a sure bet. The government's private scientists have said in the past that drilling a relief well at this depth, has only about a 30 to 40% chance of success. We all universally agree that what has happened is beyond the limits of man and even science...at this point, the only person who will fix the gulf is GOD. I'm not trying to be a religious nut, but that's the truth....

[SolidSnake84]

Experts agree BP oil well casing has failed: Relief wells ma... - Care2 News Network

This is the article that states how the well casing has already failed. For a nightmare scenario, read the comment below the article that states what will happen if the well were to collapse due to the blowout.

What may happen is the two relief wells may also blow from the tremendous pressure and we will end up with three times the oil flowing into the Gulf than what is currently killing the ecosystem and this may be the BEST case scenario. The worst case could be a complete collapse of the sea floor above the oil field causing an explosion comparable to Mount St. Helen's eruption only 50 miles offshore. The resulting tsunami would completely destroy the entire state of Florida because it is barely above sea level. The death toll could easily be in the 10's of millions as, as much as a mile or more of coastal shoreline around the entire Gulf of Mexico would be swamped by the tsunami.

So there you go. The worst has not even happened yet. A worst case scenario would leave 10's of millions dead, the entire gulf wiped out, and the state of florida crumbled into the sea floor.

I think this is almost apocalyptic, but the science behind the article says that it all could theoretically happen. I don't think it will be this bad, but we probably really truly haven't seen the worst yet.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Experts agree BP oil well casing has failed: Relief wells ma... - Care2 News Network

This is the article that states how the well casing has already failed. For a nightmare scenario, read the comment below the article that states what will happen if the well were to collapse due to the blowout.

What may happen is the two relief wells may also blow from the tremendous pressure and we will end up with three times the oil flowing into the Gulf than what is currently killing the ecosystem and this may be the BEST case scenario. The worst case could be a complete collapse of the sea floor above the oil field causing an explosion comparable to Mount St. Helen's eruption only 50 miles offshore. The resulting tsunami would completely destroy the entire state of Florida because it is barely above sea level. The death toll could easily be in the 10's of millions as, as much as a mile or more of coastal shoreline around the entire Gulf of Mexico would be swamped by the tsunami.

So there you go. The worst has not even happened yet. A worst case scenario would leave 10's of millions dead, the entire gulf wiped out, and the state of florida crumbled into the sea floor.

I think this is almost apocalyptic, but the science behind the article says that it all could theoretically happen. I don't think it will be this bad, but we probably really truly haven't seen the worst yet.

Sweet Jesus. Now that's a worst case scenario.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Experts agree BP oil well casing has failed: Relief wells ma... - Care2 News Network

This is the article that states how the well casing has already failed. For a nightmare scenario, read the comment below the article that states what will happen if the well were to collapse due to the blowout.

What may happen is the two relief wells may also blow from the tremendous pressure and we will end up with three times the oil flowing into the Gulf than what is currently killing the ecosystem and this may be the BEST case scenario. The worst case could be a complete collapse of the sea floor above the oil field causing an explosion comparable to Mount St. Helen's eruption only 50 miles offshore. The resulting tsunami would completely destroy the entire state of Florida because it is barely above sea level. The death toll could easily be in the 10's of millions as, as much as a mile or more of coastal shoreline around the entire Gulf of Mexico would be swamped by the tsunami.

So there you go. The worst has not even happened yet. A worst case scenario would leave 10's of millions dead, the entire gulf wiped out, and the state of florida crumbled into the sea floor.

I think this is almost apocalyptic, but the science behind the article says that it all could theoretically happen. I don't think it will be this bad, but we probably really truly haven't seen the worst yet.

I just followed the link you posted. The part in bold is actually just a comment from a reader, not an "article." So really it's just some joe shmo totally speculating. Who knows if it's based in any fact whatsoever.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Your idea would indeed work if it wasn't for the fact that the well casing itself was damaged during the top-kill operation.

The actual well casing itself is now damaged, and oil is leaking from it up through the sea floor. That's why BP gave up on the idea of installing a new blowout preventer. The pressure from having the wellhead suddenly closed would blowout what is left of the well casing, leaving a leak way worse and with no way to fix it.

And to joetheismanfan -- all of your points are correct. When Bill Nye the science guy was on TV, he explained that even though wells only produce typically for 5 to 10 years, the level of oil in this macondo well, while not infinite, has the potential to flow for the next 100 years.

A relief well is also not a sure bet. The government's private scientists have said in the past that drilling a relief well at this depth, has only about a 30 to 40% chance of success. We all universally agree that what has happened is beyond the limits of man and even science...at this point, the only person who will fix the gulf is GOD. I'm not trying to be a religious nut, but that's the truth....

I'm changing my name form JTF to The Prophe-seer. I said let's pray on day 38.