Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[firstdown]

Ok while at lunch I was reading the papper and it occured to me that I was wrong and Obama has been jsut sitting there doing nothing for the last 7 days. While this is all on BP our goverment has the duty to protect us and Obama is failing. Finaly yesterday Obama (after 7 days of doing nothing) has committed all the resources they have to containing the spill. Ok, but why did you wait 7 days when it is now just off the coast and not when it first happened? Then on my way back to the office I hear Obama on the news say he will get his first reports from people on the ground later today. OK now its 8 days and he is getting his first reports from people there. Wow, great response time. I hope my local firedepartment is just a little faster. I'm not blaming Obama for this but I do blame him for not responding sooner and using the equipment the federal goverment and states own.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Ok while at lunch I was reading the papper and it occured to me that I was wrong and Obama has been jsut sitting there doing nothing for the last 7 days. While this is all on BP our goverment has the duty to protect us and Obama is failing. Finaly yesterday Obama (after 7 days of doing nothing) has committed all the resources they have to containing the spill. Ok, but why did you wait 7 days when it is now just off the coast and not when it first happened? Then on my way back to the office I hear Obama on the news say he will get his first reports from people on the ground later today. OK now its 8 days and he is getting his first reports from people there. Wow, great response time. I hope my local firedepartment is just a little faster. I'm not blaming Obama for this but I do blame him for not responding sooner and using the equipment the federal goverment and states own.

why should our government use equipment to help a mulit-national Iranian revolution starting BP Oil?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

why should our government use equipment to help a mulit-national Iranian revolution starting BP Oil?

Because its our coast line that its getting ready to hit. Help with the clean up then send BP a hugh bill.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Because its our coast line that its getting ready to hit. Help with the clean up then send BP a hugh bill.

I don't think they have enough to pay for this.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I don't think they have enough to pay for this.

You where the guy just saying they are making record profits. Now when I question why Obama waited 7 days before doing anything no one has any answer for that. I got this from a boating site I visit from time to time and this is what someone says BP is doing as part of trying to control this. I have no clue if its correct but it did make sense.

27PMThe Discoverer Enterprise, is arriving at the scene of the oil spill as I type. BP is building a dome (think Umbrella) and we will lower it on drill pipe until it is just above the upper end of the drill pipe flowing oil into the sea. Since oil floats in water, the oil will float up into the umbrella - like an inverted funnel, then into the drill pipe and up to the rig 5000 ft. above. I assume there will be a submersible pump at the top of the umbrella to promote good flow. The Enterprise is equipped with special hull tanks that can hold 135,000 barrels (1 barrel = 42 gallons) of crude. The well is flowing about 5000 BBLS per Day now. At that rate it can bunker 27 days worth. The Enterprise also has crude oil off loading capabilities with a floating transfer hose. As its tanks get full, it will transfer the crude to shuttle tankers that will transfer the crude oil to shore. With dynamic positioning capabilities, the Enterprise can stay within a 12 ft. circle of being dead over the drill pipe end 5000 ft. below it. I will guess that the dome is being built 30 or 40 ft. in diameter. It can maintain station in as much as 90 knot winds across the bow. And we use our thrusters to also weather vane the rig so the wind is always over the bow. So, it can maintain station in a moderate hurricane.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You where the guy just saying they are making record profits. Now when I question why Obama waited 7 days before doing anything no one has any answer for that. I got this from a boating site I visit from time to time and this is what someone says BP is doing as part of trying to control this. I have no clue if its correct but it did make sense.

27PMThe Discoverer Enterprise, is arriving at the scene of the oil spill as I type. BP is building a dome (think Umbrella) and we will lower it on drill pipe until it is just above the upper end of the drill pipe flowing oil into the sea. Since oil floats in water, the oil will float up into the umbrella - like an inverted funnel, then into the drill pipe and up to the rig 5000 ft. above. I assume there will be a submersible pump at the top of the umbrella to promote good flow. The Enterprise is equipped with special hull tanks that can hold 135,000 barrels (1 barrel = 42 gallons) of crude. The well is flowing about 5000 BBLS per Day now. At that rate it can bunker 27 days worth. The Enterprise also has crude oil off loading capabilities with a floating transfer hose. As its tanks get full, it will transfer the crude to shuttle tankers that will transfer the crude oil to shore. With dynamic positioning capabilities, the Enterprise can stay within a 12 ft. circle of being dead over the drill pipe end 5000 ft. below it. I will guess that the dome is being built 30 or 40 ft. in diameter. It can maintain station in as much as 90 knot winds across the bow. And we use our thrusters to also weather vane the rig so the wind is always over the bow. So, it can maintain station in a moderate hurricane.

Actually BP downplayed the severity until yesterday. They falsley reported what was going on. who knows what's going on 1 mile beneath the ocean?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Actually BP downplayed the severity until yesterday. They falsley reported what was going on. who knows what's going on 1 mile beneath the ocean?

I have not seen any evidence that BP has tried to cover up the severity of what is happening. I think the first day or two they thought that they could get down and shut off those valves before any real impact but that did not happen. I can't hold that against them as misleading because like you said its 5,000 feet beneath the sea.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You where the guy just saying they are making record profits. Now when I question why Obama waited 7 days before doing anything no one has any answer for that.

The White House also is pushing back against criticism that the federal government hasn’t done enough responding to the spill. An administration official emails First Read that 1) Interior Secretary Salazar deployed his deputy to the Gulf the morning after the rig explosion; 2) the administration began immediately holding regular calls with BP officials; 3) President Obama began monitoring the situation and contacting governors whose states will be impacted; and 4) Obama dispatched DHS Secretary Napolitano, Secretary Salazar, and EPA Administrator Jackson to the Gulf to ensure that all is being done to respond to the spill. The administration official also says that 1,178 personnel have been deployed to protect the shoreline and wildlife; that 76 response vessels have been responding on site; and that 174,060 feet of boom/barrier have been deployed to contain the spill. And here’s one thing for all of us to remember: The initial focus, post-explosion, was the loss of human life, not the spill.

First thoughts: Crist makes his move - First Read - msnbc.com

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The White House also is pushing back against criticism that the federal government hasn’t done enough responding to the spill. An administration official emails First Read that 1) Interior Secretary Salazar deployed his deputy to the Gulf the morning after the rig explosion; 2) the administration began immediately holding regular calls with BP officials; 3) President Obama began monitoring the situation and contacting governors whose states will be impacted; and 4) Obama dispatched DHS Secretary Napolitano, Secretary Salazar, and EPA Administrator Jackson to the Gulf to ensure that all is being done to respond to the spill. The administration official also says that 1,178 personnel have been deployed to protect the shoreline and wildlife; that 76 response vessels have been responding on site; and that 174,060 feet of boom/barrier have been deployed to contain the spill. And here’s one thing for all of us to remember: The initial focus, post-explosion, was the loss of human life, not the spill.

First thoughts: Crist makes his move - First Read - msnbc.com

He just dispatched the national guard yesterday and if I'm correct BP did most of the other stuff.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Because its our coast line that its getting ready to hit. Help with the clean up then send BP a hugh bill.

How can anyone be this bad at spelling?