The "almost" Times Square Bomb

dmek25 · 05-06-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

He often says things like this because he knows gullible liberals and media outlets will make fools of themselves by repeating and believing it. It's a take on how President Bush "bombed" the levies because he wanted to kill black people.

His satire is always based on actual statements by actual idiots.

his words are only considered " satire" when someone calls him out. he spews as much bull crap as Olbermann, or Beck, or Maddow. they are all one of the same

firstdown · 05-05-2010, 02:49 PM

Well I'll have to say the same thought has crossed my mind because of the timing of this to Obama saying we are going to open more areas for off shore drilling.

DynamiteRave · 05-05-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well I'll have to say the same thought has crossed my mind because of the timing of this to Obama saying we are going to open more areas for off shore drilling.

I thought I saw that dude on the grassy knoll off Kennedy too.

dmek25 · 05-05-2010, 03:15 PM

first, what is the difference between trying them as criminals, or enemy combatants? isn't the end result the same? i know one is tried in civilian court. and the other in military court. is that the only difference?

Rainy Parade · 05-05-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

first, what is the difference between trying them as criminals, or enemy combatants? isn't the end result the same? i know one is tried in civilian court. and the other in military court. is that the only difference?

well i dont know all the legalese... but i dont care what you call them. just charge them with something, make them aware of the charges, and then have a real trial. i dont think that's coddling them. everyone should have due process. most of these guys can/would be easily convicted and locked away. and then the ones you hear about being held from age 14-19 with no charges and no contact with family cuz they threw a rock or some shit... they can be let go.

imagine if an american was held overseas indefinitely with no charges/trial, etc...

Lotus · 05-05-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

first, what is the difference between trying them as criminals, or enemy combatants? isn't the end result the same? i know one is tried in civilian court. and the other in military court. is that the only difference?

There is a big difference between criminal and enemy combatant. A criminal is allowed a trial by jury, complete with a competent lawyer, and the evidential standards are high. Military tribunals, on the other hand, do not contain a real jury, can be held without representation for the defense, and standards of evidence are ridiculously low. Criminal trials attempt to deliver real justice; military tribunals are essentially kangaroo courts.

firstdown · 05-05-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

There is a big difference between criminal and enemy combatant. A criminal is allowed a trial by jury, complete with a competent lawyer, and the evidential standards are high. Military tribunals, on the other hand, do not contain a real jury, can be held without representation for the defense, and standards of evidence are ridiculously low. Criminal trials attempt to deliver real justice; military tribunals are essentially kangaroo courts.

I guess you have not sat in a court room in some years. Lady places hot coffee in lap gets burn and wins millions. Guy climbs up shelving in store and win millions. Etc....

Lotus · 05-05-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I guess you have not sat in a court room in some years. Lady places hot coffee in lap gets burn and wins millions. Guy climbs up shelving in store and win millions. Etc....

Actually 3 weeks ago I went to a lecture by a military intelligence officer whose job is to fight terrorism. My post above reflects what he told me face-to-face after the lecture.

edit: Specifically, I went to a lecture by Mr. Tom Parker, who has taught counterterrorism at the Defense Institute for International Legal Studies, Yale University, and Bard College. He was a counterterrorism official for the British government and has taught counterterrorism techniques in various countries in Europe, Africa, and Asia.

Rainy Parade · 05-06-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I guess you have not sat in a court room in some years.

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Actually 3 weeks ago I went to a lecture by a military intelligence officer whose job is to fight terrorism. My post above reflects what he told me face-to-face after the lecture.

firstdown, what's that trendy word going around the internet these days? oh yea, it's FAIL.

tryfuhl · 05-05-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I guess you have not sat in a court room in some years. Lady places hot coffee in lap gets burn and wins millions. Guy climbs up shelving in store and win millions. Etc....

lady is dumb as shit but also has her pants and undergarments fused to her vaginal skin due to the coffee being served above the legal serving temperature

firstdown · 05-05-2010, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

first, what is the difference between trying them as criminals, or enemy combatants? isn't the end result the same? i know one is tried in civilian court. and the other in military court. is that the only difference?

Civilian court has totaly different rules then military court. For one a military court uses people that know law to determine if your guilty and a civilian court well uses civillians. Civilians also givees them more rights to procedures like getting read your rights which alot of these guys in gitmo did not have their rights read to them. Like I said I suport Obama in convecting this guy here because he is an American and he was in the US at the time.

CRedskinsRule · 05-05-2010, 03:40 PM

Did we ever close the Gitmo detention camps? I know we did move a lot out, but don't remember any finality.

mredskins · 05-05-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Did we ever close the Gitmo detention camps? I know we did move a lot out, but don't remember any finality.

Shhhhhh....we want everyone to forget about that place.

12thMan · 05-05-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Did we ever close the Gitmo detention camps? I know we did move a lot out, but don't remember any finality.

It's not closed yet, but there's a good chance most of them get re-located to a facility in Illinois that's operating well below capacity.

CRedskinsRule · 05-05-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's not closed yet, but there's a good chance most of them get re-located to a facility in Illinois that's operating well below capacity.

I think they'd rather stay in Gitmo!

Man that's a snarky line, better used on Ohio or Montana.

05-05-2010, 02:49 PM	#2
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 62 Posts: 15,817	Re: The "almost" Times Square Bomb Well I'll have to say the same thought has crossed my mind because of the timing of this to Obama saying we are going to open more areas for off shore drilling.

05-05-2010, 03:15 PM	#4
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: The "almost" Times Square Bomb first, what is the difference between trying them as criminals, or enemy combatants? isn't the end result the same? i know one is tried in civilian court. and the other in military court. is that the only difference? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

05-05-2010, 03:40 PM	#12
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,744	Re: The "almost" Times Square Bomb Did we ever close the Gitmo detention camps? I know we did move a lot out, but don't remember any finality.

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