The "almost" Times Square Bomb

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

yea, who would actually listen to that crap.






except when it's not.
see McVeigh, Timothy and Stack, Joseph.
of course when the american white guys do it we just call them "disgruntled and angry" or that they just have "some misguided gripes with the government" instead of calling them what they are (Terrorists, yea, i went capital T).

btw, when we invade and demolish another country based on trumped up phoney evidence on WMD and cuz we want regime change, and hundreds of thousands of innocents die in the process, i guess that's just "foreign policy" and not terrorism.

Golly, well look at that...it WAS a Muslim...and he wasn't a "Tea Partier" or "mad about the Immigration Bill" as some politicians (Dems) claimed.

Shocked. :yeahright

Faisal Shahzad, Times Square Bomb Suspect, Faced Foreclosure - WSJ.com

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by Buster

Golly, well look at that...it WAS a Muslim...and he wasn't a "Tea Partier" or "mad about the Immigration Bill" as some politicians (Dems) claimed.

Shocked. :yeahright

Faisal Shahzad, Times Square Bomb Suspect, Faced Foreclosure - WSJ.com

when did i claim it was gonna be a teabagger? i know the rightwing blogosphere is all abuzz so happy not cuz he's in custody but because he helps reinforce their stereotypes. good for you.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

when did i claim it was gonna be a teabagger? i know the rightwing blogosphere is all abuzz so happy not cuz he's in custody but because he helps reinforce their stereotypes. good for you.

First of all, grow up and stop pretending to be like your heroes on the Comedy News Network with the immature, offensive name calling.

Pretty much all of the major media and a lot of politicians don't want to admit it's a Muslim. A lady on NBC actually said on the air she's disappointed that this wasn't another white Timothy McVeigh because it only makes people racist for thinking of Muslims when terrorist attacks occur. What kind of insane, twisted thinking is that? Wishing there are more McVeighs?

Wake up...they've been attacking us since the late 1970s. There's more than a trend, there's an all-out war to kill you and I. They won't let one of us go because we pretend we support them and stand up for their "rights"...they'll kill you and me without caring...because we're Americans. All of the "tolerance" and "understanding" in the world won't spare you.

This Administration's "terrorists have rights too, lets read them their rights and allow them to be silent and get a lawyer after trying to murder hundreds or thousands of Americans" views are going to get us all killed.

There are 3 legal exceptions to the Miranda Rights, one being PUBLIC SAFETY. Even if this terrorist was a legal citizen, we don't need to treat them like they are a bank robber...they're trying to kill Americans in mass. Get info out of them, care about their feelings later. This is now 2 attempted attacks in a row that the process was botched in favor of the terrorist.

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by Buster

First of all, grow up and stop pretending to be like your heroes on the Comedy News Network with the immature, offensive name calling.

Pretty much all of the major media and a lot of politicians don't want to admit it's a Muslim. A lady on NBC actually said on the air she's disappointed that this wasn't another white Timothy McVeigh because it only makes people racist for thinking of Muslims when terrorist attacks occur. What kind of insane, twisted thinking is that? Wishing there are more McVeighs?

Wake up...they've been attacking us since the late 1970s. There's more than a trend, there's an all-out war to kill you and I. They won't let one of us go because we pretend we support them and stand up for their "rights"...they'll kill you and me without caring...because we're Americans. All of the "tolerance" and "understanding" in the world won't spare you.

This Administration's "terrorists have rights too, lets read them their rights and allow them to be silent and get a lawyer after trying to murder hundreds or thousands of Americans" views are going to get us all killed.

There are 3 legal exceptions to the Miranda Rights, one being PUBLIC SAFETY. Even if this terrorist was a legal citizen, we don't need to treat them like they are a bank robber...they're trying to kill Americans in mass. Get info out of them, care about their feelings later. This is now 2 attempted attacks in a row that the process was botched in favor of the terrorist.

umm, what? first of all... where's the name calling? if you mean "teabaggers" well that term has been used quite a bit all over the spectrum of mainstream media so that was not meant as name calling even though we can all giggle at the thought of glenn beck with someone's nuts in his mouth.

as for your portrayal of someone alledgedly wishing there more mcveighs, okay... as if YOUR heroes on Fox aren't stirring the pot calling guys like that patriots.


and, oh by the way, Obama has largely continued the Bush-Cheney doctrine of no real jury trials for terrorists. they are not coddling terrorists, no matter what Rush Limbaugh is telling you.

but go ahead and blame "the liberals" or claim that Obama is "sort on terrorism." whatever makes you feel better.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

umm, what? first of all... where's the name calling? if you mean "teabaggers" well that term has been used quite a bit all over the spectrum of mainstream media so that was not meant as name calling even though we can all giggle at the thought of glenn beck with someone's nuts in his mouth.

as for your portrayal of someone alledgedly wishing there more mcveighs, okay... as if YOUR heroes on Fox aren't stirring the pot calling guys like that patriots.


and, oh by the way, Obama has largely continued the Bush-Cheney doctrine of no real jury trials for terrorists. they are not coddling terrorists, no matter what Rush Limbaugh is telling you.

but go ahead and blame "the liberals" or claim that Obama is "sort on terrorism." whatever makes you feel better.

Wow. So much media parroting here...can't even respond to such drivel.

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by Buster

Wow. So much media parroting here...can't even respond to such drivel.

oh, hi Pot.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

oh, hi Pot.

Yeah the last few posts leading up to this on both sides were definitely pot and kettle. (or the worst of our political dialogue.)

The guy was headed to Pakistan, and he admitted he had some taliban training (i believe) HOWEVER he also had been living the "american dream", had an MBA, wife, kids. Who knows what exactly drove him past the point, the foreclosure? the taliban?

Just glad the bomb fizzled and he was caught by an effective police response.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

umm, what? first of all... where's the name calling? if you mean "teabaggers" well that term has been used quite a bit all over the spectrum of mainstream media so that was not meant as name calling even though we can all giggle at the thought of glenn beck with someone's nuts in his mouth.

as for your portrayal of someone alledgedly wishing there more mcveighs, okay... as if YOUR heroes on Fox aren't stirring the pot calling guys like that patriots.


and, oh by the way, Obama has largely continued the Bush-Cheney doctrine of no real jury trials for terrorists. they are not coddling terrorists, no matter what Rush Limbaugh is telling you.

but go ahead and blame "the liberals" or claim that Obama is "sort on terrorism." whatever makes you feel better.

Thats just not correct as Bush look at these people as terrorist and Obama by his own word says they are criminals. In this case Obama is going to use the court which is correct because it happened here and he is a citizen. Those four guys Obam wanted to try in NY was a different story on how the two look at these guys differently and sorry that was going to be a jury trial.

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Thats just not correct as Bush look at these people as terrorist and Obama by his own word says they are criminals. In this case Obama is going to use the court which is correct because it happened here and he is a citizen. Those four guys Obam wanted to try in NY was a different story on how the two look at these guys differently and sorry that was going to be a jury trial.

but will it be? no.

and good job by Bush making these guys "enemy combatants" and talking about "war" because that's what they want. they want that attention, they need to feel like they are waging a war against us and giving them that status emboldens them.

do a little research on how every other country deals with them as criminals, tries them, and locks them away successfully. these worst of the worst can and would easily lose every trial cuz most of them are so dangerous and the terrorism laws are so strong. no reason to be afraid of our system. here we are allegedly defending our freedom and championing our great democracy and then not abiding by it ourselves.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

but will it be? no.

and good job by Bush making these guys "enemy combatants" and talking about "war" because that's what they want. they want that attention, they need to feel like they are waging a war against us and giving them that status emboldens them.

do a little research on how every other country deals with them as criminals, tries them, and locks them away successfully. these worst of the worst can and would easily lose every trial cuz most of them are so dangerous and the terrorism laws are so strong. no reason to be afraid of our system. here we are allegedly defending our freedom and championing our great democracy and then not abiding by it ourselves.

You just made my piont. Bush treated them as enemy combatants and Obama is treating them as criminals. Your other post you said he was pretty much continued the Bush doctrine. Which one is the correct way I really could not say. Remember though most of the guys Bush had to deal with where captured durn war and not on our grounds.

What scares me is that they have now failed three times, shoe bomber, underwear bomber, and now this guy. Each time if their devise would have worked they would have succeeded and its just a matter of time before our luck runs out.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Buster

First of all, grow up and stop pretending to be like your heroes on the Comedy News Network with the immature, offensive name calling.

Pretty much all of the major media and a lot of politicians don't want to admit it's a Muslim. A lady on NBC actually said on the air she's disappointed that this wasn't another white Timothy McVeigh because it only makes people racist for thinking of Muslims when terrorist attacks occur. What kind of insane, twisted thinking is that? Wishing there are more McVeighs?

Wake up...they've been attacking us since the late 1970s. There's more than a trend, there's an all-out war to kill you and I. They won't let one of us go because we pretend we support them and stand up for their "rights"...they'll kill you and me without caring...because we're Americans. All of the "tolerance" and "understanding" in the world won't spare you.

This Administration's "terrorists have rights too, lets read them their rights and allow them to be silent and get a lawyer after trying to murder hundreds or thousands of Americans" views are going to get us all killed.

There are 3 legal exceptions to the Miranda Rights, one being PUBLIC SAFETY. Even if this terrorist was a legal citizen, we don't need to treat them like they are a bank robber...they're trying to kill Americans in mass. Get info out of them, care about their feelings later. This is now 2 attempted attacks in a row that the process was botched in favor of the terrorist.

Are you talking about Contessa Brewer, because what she said was:

“There was part of me that was hoping this was not going to be anybody with ties to any kind of Islamic country because there are a lot of people who want to use this terrorist intent to justify writing off people who believe in a certain way, or come from certain countries or whose skin color is a certain way,” Brewer said Tuesday during a radio interview with host Stephanie Miller. “I mean, they use it as justification for really outdated bigotry.”

“So, there was part of me really hoping this would not be the case, that here would be somebody who is not that defined,” she continued. “I mean, he’s accused, he’s arrested, you know, I don’t want to convict him before it’s time to do so. He’s the guy authorities say is involved. But that being said, I mean, we know even in recent history you have the Haitari militia from Michigan who have plans to, let’s face it, create terror.”

Read more: Rush Limbaugh, Contessa Brewer terror comments ripped - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com

Maybe you want to call that insane, twisted thinking but then what do you call this?

“Of course, he’s a Democrat. Who knows how many times he voted and where,” Limbaugh said. “I would love if this guy were a member of ACORN.”

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Are you talking about Contessa Brewer, because what she said was:

“There was part of me that was hoping this was not going to be anybody with ties to any kind of Islamic country because there are a lot of people who want to use this terrorist intent to justify writing off people who believe in a certain way, or come from certain countries or whose skin color is a certain way,” Brewer said Tuesday during a radio interview with host Stephanie Miller. “I mean, they use it as justification for really outdated bigotry.”

“So, there was part of me really hoping this would not be the case, that here would be somebody who is not that defined,” she continued. “I mean, he’s accused, he’s arrested, you know, I don’t want to convict him before it’s time to do so. He’s the guy authorities say is involved. But that being said, I mean, we know even in recent history you have the Haitari militia from Michigan who have plans to, let’s face it, create terror.”

Read more: Rush Limbaugh, Contessa Brewer terror comments ripped - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com

Maybe you want to call that insane, twisted thinking but then what do you call this?

“Of course, he’s a Democrat. Who knows how many times he voted and where,” Limbaugh said. “I would love if this guy were a member of ACORN.”

Comments like this from Hannity and Rush are just to stir the pot. Every time the pot stirs their wallets grow. I don't even think they beleive i nhalf the crap they spew they just want deeper pockets.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Buster

First of all, grow up and stop pretending to be like your heroes on the Comedy News Network with the immature, offensive name calling.

looool

[saden1]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

looool

Man, that sad funny. Makes you want to smack him in the face while shouting "wake up from stupid" or some such.