Arizona's New Immigration Law

[joethiesmanfan]

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Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Mexico's illegals laws tougher than Arizona's - Washington Times


Back on subject. Looks like a double standard that Mexico and Mexicans are using. If a Mexican feels the need to protest here why are they not protesting in Mexico? This was a good summary for their laws.

Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.
The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," violate Mexican law, are not "physically or mentally healthy" or lack the "necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents.

Look, we don;t get down like that. in other words we are not gonna become a police state jsust to exact revenge for that racher's murder, RIP. Typical over reaction similar to patriot act.

[mlmpetert]

FOXNews.com - California Students Sent Home for Wearing U.S. Flags on Cinco de Mayo

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

FOXNews.com - California Students Sent Home for Wearing U.S. Flags on Cinco de Mayo

Oh man. That's scary. US school teachers sending kids home for wearing the American Flag on a T-shirt? Fail, fail, fail.

I've heard that no Mexicans outside the town of Puebla even celebrate Cinco De Mayo. Apparently the "holiday" celebrates when that particular town fought off the French in 1862. Mexico was ultimately unable to stop the European "intervention."

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Oh man. That's scary. US school teachers sending kids home for wearing the American Flag on a T-shirt? Fail, fail, fail.

I've heard that no Mexicans outside the town of Puebla even celebrate Cinco De Mayo. Apparently the "holiday" celebrates when that particular town fought off the French in 1862. Mexico was ultimately unable to stop the European "intervention."

So what's your point?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

So what's your point?

My point is that Americans seem to care more about this "holiday" (an excuse to drink coronas and margaritas) than Mexicans do. Also, I don't care what day of the year it is, if an American in the USA wants to wear a tshirt of the American flag, he/she should be allowed to do so. Period.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by GMScud

My point is that Americans seem to care more about this "holiday" (an excuse to drink coronas and margaritas) than Mexicans do. Also, I don't care what day of the year it is, if an American in the USA wants to wear a tshirt of the American flag, he/she should be allowed to do so. Period.

apparently the school district and I agree with you. i wonder what nationality/race the principal is or whoever made the decision to threaten suspension if they didnt remove their american shirts and bandanaa.

and this goes to my post above regarding the younger generation of hispanics in CA (and I assume AZ). literally, if you were (for my homie FD)an american shirt on any of their holidays, they view that as dissent from their demands and take it as a provocation to violence or hatred or intolerance.

just not a good way to try and peacefully assimilate both our cultures if any given mexican holiday only mexican flags can be waived or worn in the US. these teenage hispanic kids are going malcolm x when they should be going MLK.

when you hold a cesar chavez or cinco de mayo festival in america, maybe include both national flags and not demand only the mexican flag gets represented.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

apparently the school district and I agree with you. i wonder what nationality/race the principal is or whoever made the decision to threaten suspension if they didnt remove their american shirts and bandanaa.

and this goes to my post above regarding the younger generation of hispanics in CA (and I assume AZ). literally, if you were (for my homie FD)an american shirt on any of their holidays, they view that as dissent from their demands and take it as a provocation to violence or hatred or intolerance.

just not a good way to try and peacefully assimilate both our cultures if any given mexican holiday only mexican flags can be waived or worn in the US. these teenage hispanic kids are going malcolm x when they should be going MLK.

when you hold a cesar chavez or cinco de mayo festival in america, maybe include both national flags and not demand only the mexican flag gets represented.

The principal's last name is Rodriguez. Just saying...

[joethiesmanfan]

I feel like they should be able to wear the Amercian flag, but not the confederate flag (seeing as they wer fighting against america).

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I feel like they should be able to wear the Amercian flag, but not the confederate flag (seeing as they wer fighting against america).

you know, now that i think about it, the US flag incident on cinco de mayo is an intersting parallel to what happended down in SC when students wore confederate flag tshirts when that whole brew haha pooped up over removing the confederate part of their flag.

what happened? did the students have to remove their confederate tshirts? i forget.

i also can see teh hispanics students side with regards to teh US shirts and bandanas. my gut tells me the guys who wore a us flag bandanas probably only wore those on that day with the purpose of quietly stating they dont agree with open immigration which may (lets face it were talkign about HS kids) provoke some words which could lead to voilence.

with that said, im sure the hispanic portion of the school wasnt just celebrating cinco de mayo but using it as a platform to demand open immigration, which is what they seemingly do with any mexican holiday.

maybe just celebrate the holiday and leave the immigration stuff for another day. if you want to include immigration into your holidays, dont get all butt hurt when people with opposing views quietly and peacefully dissent.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I feel like they should be able to wear the Amercian flag, but not the confederate flag (seeing as they wer fighting against america).

Freedom of speech where is the AHOL (forgot the letters). They tend to come out when its anything againts the flag but never for. I think I will have the American Flag for the name of my boat.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I feel like they should be able to wear the Amercian flag, but not the confederate flag (seeing as they wer fighting against america).

Ahh, so you support the government's restriction of free speech when the speech being restricted is supportive of those who have opposed or fought against "america".

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Oh man. That's scary. US school teachers sending kids home for wearing the American Flag on a T-shirt? Fail, fail, fail.

I've heard that no Mexicans outside the town of Puebla even celebrate Cinco De Mayo. Apparently the "holiday" celebrates when that particular town fought off the French in 1862. Mexico was ultimately unable to stop the European "intervention."

I think Corona made it up to sell more beer.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Oh man. That's scary. US school teachers sending kids home for wearing the American Flag on a T-shirt? Fail, fail, fail.

I've heard that no Mexicans outside the town of Puebla even celebrate Cinco De Mayo. Apparently the "holiday" celebrates when that particular town fought off the French in 1862. Mexico was ultimately unable to stop the European "intervention."

Yeah california is weird. Years back all the hispanic school going kids did a sit out on cesar chavez day to protest against the immigration laws. As you can guess, it turned into an "anybody who opposses open immigration is a racist" stuff.

If you had an american flag and not a mexican flag, you were a racist.

I dont get it, hold a rally in america trying to bring spotlight to the immigration issue but instead of including the american flag in america they were waiving their mexican flag.

The border is 15 miles down the road, if you cant bring yourself to waive an american flag, dont waive your mexican flag in my face expecting me to respect it. In CA and im sure AZ, alot of immigrants feel like they are entitled to more than we the average citizen receive. Really it is the younger generation of hispanics in that part of our country that have unrealistic yet unwavering demands.

My judge used to say that immigrants must embrace and become a working beneficial part of society and not try and form their own little communities exclusive to immigrants while shunning the outside world.

In san diego, there a neighborhoods were stores have signs on the front saying "Yes, we speak american". lol

all this is just my opinion based on my experiences. other people could have the exact same experiences and walk away with a different impression. ive been down to mexico a ton of times, great place if your in the right places.