Haynesworth is Behaving Selfishly

[over the mountain]

yeah this is an exciting time. for the first time in 11 years our coach is not 1) an interim coach (robiskie) 2) a lazy college coach trying to make the transition to the nfl (spurrier) 3) has not been out of the nfl in every capacity for a decade (gibbs) 4) is not a last resort option and placeholder (zorn).

really marty was the only legit coach we had. while he went 0-6, he did go 6-0 to end the season.

im really really excited. coaching is huge in the nfl imo. more so than hockey, baseball and basketball combined.

[over the mountain]

idk, i dont think anyones opinion on this is wrong. but i do believe shanny, allen and haslett have personally placed a 3-5 year window of achieving success here.

if they believe that the 3-4 is the superior D scheme, i understand their interest in implementing it right away (or atleast starting to ease into it) so that 2-3 years from now they can reasonably expect success vs waiting 2-3 years when fletch, Ah are gone then trying to implement the 3-4.

From day one when allen got here it was apparent we are working and will do everything we can to be a consistent contender in a year or two, if not right now.

waiting 2-3 years for the older vets on our roster to be gone would waste 2-3 years orakpo, jarmon and others could be learning. orakpo is going to be a cornerstone of our D for years to come, getting him used to outside 3-4 is important.

i dont see why we cant introduce the scheme, use it soemtimes in real live action and make methodical decisions re. the new players we bring in.

[MTK]

I don't think we're nearly as short on the necessary pieces for a 3-4 as some want to think. I'm guessing the staff knows what they're doing.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't think we're nearly as short on the necessary pieces for a 3-4 as some want to think. I'm guessing the staff knows what they're doing.

Exactly.. and when making a switch you'll be a bit short. I mean if we were perfectly ideal for a 3-4 team we wouldn't have been a 4-3 to begin with. Why wait to switch?

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't think we're nearly as short on the necessary pieces for a 3-4 as some want to think. I'm guessing the staff knows what they're doing.

I think we have made very good moves thus far, but I have to disagree about the not being short bit, especially at LB. Our depth sucked at the 4-3 at LB. THe addition of the LB from LSU was great, but we will need to draft another LB or two next season I think. Fletch isn't getting any younger, and the depth still sucks. Hopefully McIntosh will step it up to prove he is a real gamer.

[NYCskinfan82]

I beleive in our FO & i'm sure we will pick up more players that fit the 3-4 as they get released from other camps but we need depth, think about our OL last yr that's what killed us no depth we have depth for a 4-3 DF but not a 3-4 IMO.


HTTR.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I finally saw the NFL Network Replay of Total Access, with the Bruce Allen. If Albert comes in good shape and plays well in camp all is forgiven for now. He will play and we will all just have to see how well Albert handles the media and his team through out the year. He could just come in and play where ever he is intructed to with all his might or he comes in and creates a distraction for the team.

Then we will all see how it goes down. He could be here for the length of his contract and realizes that he can still be disruptive in this scream, and be great. It is all how Haslett uses the guy. If he has to play nose all the time he probably wont be to happy and gone soon. Now if we play Haynesworth, Kemo/ or one of the other guys we have for nose, Daniels/Carriker. I would tend to think we have a high rate of success with that line in a 3-4.

Where does Andrer Carter fit into our plans. If haslet wants guys at 315 Andre is going to be a LB. I just find that a bit of a waste there. he is not good in coverage at all. He is to slow for a LB, but has great speed at DE. Andre has never been good in coverage. He is a natural DE. I really wish there was a market for him, because he can play. Hell if we were wishing I would want him still here and still be playing a 4-3, then all of this AH talk would be for nothing as i am sure it would not have been so over blown by the media.

Any way I want AH here and playing well, but I am also tired of hearing about all of this shit. LOL

[53Fan]

Maybe this would get him into camp quicker?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Maybe this would get him into camp quicker?

LOL!

...Betty White is badass.

[SBXVII]

Ok, I hate sending people to this site but this was an interesting take. In case you don't get it "PD93" is Phillip Daniels. He showed up to set the record straight. Hope this eases some of the animosity about AH.
Hello Skins Fans. This is PD. - EXTREMESKINS.com

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ok, I hate sending people to this site but this was an interesting take. In case you don't get it "PD93" is Phillip Daniels. He showed up to set the record straight. Hope this eases some of the animosity about AH.
Hello Skins Fans. This is PD. - EXTREMESKINS.com

Nobody police's the reporters they can say whatever & it's OK. ESPN has gotten way to BIG IMO.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Nobody police's the reporters they can say whatever & it's OK. ESPN has gotten way to BIG IMO.

I know this will look like I'm simply blindly defending ESPN but what PD is referring to I'm sure is more so his interview with Mike Wise of the Washington Post, not ESPN.

washingtonpost.com

Furthermore, and again I know like it will come across as I'm blindly defending the media, the problem is more often than not readers'/viewers'/listeners' gross misunderstanding of what's been reported (BHA I'm looking in your direction) than what is actually written or said.

Bottom line just about everyone with the Redskins knows how important AH is to the team, they don't agree with his decision but they respect it and that's that. Nothing more, nothing less

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know this will look like I'm simply blindly defending ESPN but what PD is referring to I'm sure is more so his interview with Mike Wise of the Washington Post, not ESPN.

washingtonpost.com

Furthermore, and again I know like it will come across as I'm blindly defending the media, the problem is more often than not readers'/viewers'/listeners' gross misunderstanding of what's been reported (BHA I'm looking in your direction) than what is actually written or said.

Bottom line just about everyone with the Redskins knows how important AH is to the team, they don't agree with his decision but they respect it and that's that. Nothing more, nothing less

lol BHA will pull the smallest thing at times.. take someone's opinion, make it fact, etc

now of course the media does focus on particulars as well, a small spark will set off a fire.. not all of the time, but in cases like this it's pretty evident..

[skinsfan_nn]

ESPN.com

Snyder: Haynesworth absence not OK

Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- While he's "disappointed" with Albert Haynesworth, all else seems fine with Dan Snyder after a rough year as owner of the Washington Redskins.


Snyder acknowledged a different vibe and a cultural change now that he's appointed Bruce Allen as general manager and Mike Shanahan as head coach.

"It was necessary," Snyder said Saturday at the dedication of an inner-city football field that has been refurbished by the Redskins and the NFL. "We were 4-12 and going in the wrong direction, and all the changes are to get us going in the right direction. Obviously with the pedigree and the success of the people that I've brought in, you can tell we're going in the right direction. I'm real excited about it."

In the last five months, Snyder has ousted longtime front office head Vinny Cerrato and fired coach Jim Zorn. The changes came with a price: The owner known for his hands-on approach has given Shanahan the final say over the roster.

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Snyder downplayed the change in his role.

"I think the approach has always been a little more hands-off than probably written about or reported about," he said.

Snyder cited the leadership of Donovan McNabb and nodded "We'll be OK" when asked about the status of getting the new quarterback a contract extension. McNabb's current deal expires at the end of the year.

Haynesworth is another matter. The Redskins have paid the two-time All Pro $32 million in guaranteed money over the last 15 months, but he skipped two voluntary minicamps this spring and stayed away from all of the team's offseason workouts mainly because he's unhappy with the switch to a 3-4 defense.

"Yeah, I'm disappointed he's not here. Absolutely," Snyder said. "We're expecting our players to lead by example, and we're expecting our players to understand that they're Redskins and they need to be there."

Haynesworth is expected to attend the mandatory minicamp next month.

[JLee9718]

AH hasn't done enough to have earned the $32M. Maybe with Allen and Shanny we'll get some players who care about teamwork, not individual stats. No more AH's or CP's!