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Old 05-17-2010, 08:55 AM   #1
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Re: Missouri Cops Raid House... Shoots Dogs with Children Present

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I saw that in a tweet, and thought of this thread as well. Without hearing the whole story, there simply is no excuse for the murder of a 7 yo girl in a raid. SWAT/Police train for all circumstances, and shooting a 7yo ought to be treated as murder. (unless she is carrying a quantum physics book Will)
from everything i have read/seen it looks like the went in the wrong side of a duplex. and allegedly there were people outside that told the oficers there were kids in the house, allegedly. but she was shot in the face i don't understand how that can happen these cops just sound trigger happy. i know it's a tough job but it's their job. they signed up for it
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:59 AM   #2
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from everything i have read/seen it looks like the went in the wrong side of a duplex. and allegedly there were people outside that told the oficers there were kids in the house, allegedly. but she was shot in the face i don't understand how that can happen these cops just sound trigger happy. i know it's a tough job but it's their job. they signed up for it
What are you reading just clips from the family.

Upon entering the home, the officer encountered a 46-year-old female inside the front room, Godbee said. "Exactly what happened next is a matter still under investigation, but it appears the officer and the woman had some level of physical contact.
"At about this time, the officer's weapon discharged one round which, tragically, struck 7-year-old Aiyana Stanley Jones in the neck/head area."

The person they were after was arrested in the home:

Jones claimed the officers had the wrong house, but Godbee said in the statement the 34-year-old suspect in Blake's death was found and arrested at the home. In addition, a vehicle and a moped matching the descriptions of those involved in Blake's shooting were also found, he said.
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Old 05-17-2010, 09:02 AM   #3
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What are you reading just clips from the family.

Upon entering the home, the officer encountered a 46-year-old female inside the front room, Godbee said. "Exactly what happened next is a matter still under investigation, but it appears the officer and the woman had some level of physical contact.
"At about this time, the officer's weapon discharged one round which, tragically, struck 7-year-old Aiyana Stanley Jones in the neck/head area."

The person they were after was arrested in the home:

Jones claimed the officers had the wrong house, but Godbee said in the statement the 34-year-old suspect in Blake's death was found and arrested at the home. In addition, a vehicle and a moped matching the descriptions of those involved in Blake's shooting were also found, he said.
Regardless of if the person was in the home, you don't shoot a 7yo.
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Regardless of if the person was in the home, you don't shoot a 7yo.
Read the article the officer was having a strugle with some lady in the home when the gun went off.
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Read the article the officer was having a strugle with some lady in the home when the gun went off.
This is disputed part of what actually happened, and a typical bullsh*t excuse a cop would try to throw to the wall hoping it will stick to help cover his ass. I read a follow up this morning stating that there wasnt a struggle but contact made as officers forced there way through the residence.
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This is disputed part of what actually happened, and a typical bullsh*t excuse a cop would try to throw to the wall hoping it will stick to help cover his ass. I read a follow up this morning stating that there wasnt a struggle but contact made as officers forced there way through the residence.
I saw that as well but at this point we don't know what happened. Sounds like an accident either way and now this officer will have to live with this the rest of his life. Also if the guy was arrested in their home they hold the burden of allowing a guy who killed someone to hide out in their home but I guess we can just ignore that.
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I saw that as well but at this point we don't know what happened. Sounds like an accident either way and now this officer will have to live with this the rest of his life. Also if the guy was arrested in their home they hold the burden of allowing a guy who killed someone to hide out in their home but I guess we can just ignore that.
I don't give a damn who was in the house. In the first place, no knock warrants are retarded. It's a high risk warrant because THE POLICE decided to kick in the door instead of sitting on the house and jacking him up when he left. There's no reason to go running into a house with your guns drawn to catch one killer, you don't know what's on the other side of that door, it's dangerous for everyone involved and it's just plain stupid. Second, the officer is trained to handle situations like that and guns don't just "go off." He pulled the f'ing trigger, he should be owning up to it. Saying it was "an accident" doesn't excuse the fact that the police took the life of a 7 year old girl. Neither does the fact that someone let the man stay there (who knows if they knew what he had done, but you conveniently overlook that fact while you calmly excuse the death of a 7 year old). A lot of people are taking a nonchalant approach saying, "it's not like he meant to kill her." Who cares what he meant to do? He killed the kid.

How much safer is the city of Detroit now, btw that one murderer was apprehended? How much safer is the city in Missouri because a guy who had a little bit of pot was apprehended by police? The fact remains that the raids are stupid and not a whole lot of good comes out of them.
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What are you reading just clips from the family.

Upon entering the home, the officer encountered a 46-year-old female inside the front room, Godbee said. "Exactly what happened next is a matter still under investigation, but it appears the officer and the woman had some level of physical contact.
"At about this time, the officer's weapon discharged one round which, tragically, struck 7-year-old Aiyana Stanley Jones in the neck/head area."

The person they were after was arrested in the home:

Jones claimed the officers had the wrong house, but Godbee said in the statement the 34-year-old suspect in Blake's death was found and arrested at the home. In addition, a vehicle and a moped matching the descriptions of those involved in Blake's shooting were also found, he said
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yes he was in the house but it was a duplex and it sounds like he was in the other half of it. not confirmed but thats what it sounds like
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from everything i have read/seen it looks like the went in the wrong side of a duplex. and allegedly there were people outside that told the oficers there were kids in the house, allegedly. but she was shot in the face i don't understand how that can happen these cops just sound trigger happy. i know it's a tough job but it's their job. they signed up for it
A 7yo is going to be standing at knee cap level or possibly thigh. There is simply no excuse for a trained officer to take that type of shot. And no, I wasn't there, and yes heat of the moment etc, but I did do a LOT of MOUT (military ops in urban terrain) training, and that is what these guys practice day in and day out.
The only exception I could see, and we will probably never know the truth, is if the 7yo actually drew a real or toy gun.
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A 7yo is going to be standing at knee cap level or possibly thigh. There is simply no excuse for a trained officer to take that type of shot. And no, I wasn't there, and yes heat of the moment etc, but I did do a LOT of MOUT (military ops in urban terrain) training, and that is what these guys practice day in and day out.
The only exception I could see, and we will probably never know the truth, is if the 7yo actually drew a real or toy gun.
i did as well and thats why imo there really is no excuse they train for this stuff day in and day out. like i said it's a tough job, really tough, but they signed up for it
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