Arizona's New Immigration Law

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Okay sounds good, those are the positives, what are the negatives?

Here is the wiki link to two excellent books on the FairTax, the first is the FairTax book and the follow on is a response to critics of the plan (most criticisms false or misleading).

The FairTax Book - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here is a link to the FairTax site, on the bottom of the front page are the five most common criticisms of the plan with rebuttals.

Americans For Fair Taxation:

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Here is the wiki link to two excellent books on the FairTax, the first is the FairTax book and the follow on is a response to critics of the plan (most criticisms false or misleading).

The FairTax Book - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here is a link to the FairTax site, on the bottom of the front page are the five most common criticisms of the plan with rebuttals.

Americans For Fair Taxation:

I just ask taht because I don't believe in utopian ideas. If you can't tell me a negative, then a red flag goes up.

[mlmpetert]

US court grants asylum to Obama's African aunt - Yahoo! News

Apparently Obama's aunt was recently a illegal immigrant , but astonishingly she was/is also living in public housing. How does a illegal immigrant get free housing? Its not like she has kids (for us) to support. Also it sounds like she has a fair amount of medical problems so i guess she just gets free health care too? Does anyone know if she works?

And Obama is pretty rich now, he's just gonna let his aunt live in public housing at the expense of the taxpayer? What the hell is going on in this country?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

US court grants asylum to Obama's African aunt - Yahoo! News

Apparently Obama's aunt was recently a illegal immigrant , but astonishingly she was/is also living in public housing. How does a illegal immigrant get free housing? Its not like she has kids (for us) to support. Also it sounds like she has a fair amount of medical problems so i guess she just gets free health care too? Does anyone know if she works?

And Obama is pretty rich now, he's just gonna let his aunt live in public housing at the expense of the taxpayer? What the hell is going on in this country?

See liberals want to tax and have others pay for all their social programs and Obama is no different. The dude is president of the USA and his aunt lives in goverment housing draining our system and he does nothing for her from what I can tell. Same thing goes for his half brother that lives in a hut in some 3rd world.

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by firstdown

See liberals want to tax and have others pay for all their social programs and Obama is no different. The dude is president of the USA and his aunt lives in goverment housing draining our system and he does nothing for her from what I can tell. Same thing goes for his half brother that lives in a hut in some 3rd world.

right.
cuz all "liberals" ALL think and want the exact same thing. that's a pretty broad brush you're paintin with there my friend. i guess all "conservatives" and/or "republicans" are racists and homophobes cuz i know some that are?

and as someone pointed out, we dont know how close he is with this aunt or the alleged half-brother, not to mention the political dynamite that would go off if he reached out to them in any documented way. just seems like yet another bullshit "gotcha" story that's much a-do about very little.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

right.
cuz all "liberals" ALL think and want the exact same thing. that's a pretty broad brush you're paintin with there my friend. i guess all "conservatives" and/or "republicans" are racists and homophobes cuz i know some that are?

and as someone pointed out, we dont know how close he is with this aunt or the alleged half-brother, not to mention the political dynamite that would go off if he reached out to them in any documented way. just seems like yet another bullshit "gotcha" story that's much a-do about very little.

Please name one "liberal" public figure that does not want social programs. That is the basis of their platform. Kelsey Grammer is a "conservative" and i know him to be neither raciest or homophobic, rather quite the opposite. Do you realize how ridiculous and malicious your comparison is?

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Please name one "liberal" public figure that does not want social programs. That is the basis of their platform. Kelsey Grammer is a "conservative" and i know him to be neither raciest or homophobic, rather quite the opposite. Do you realize how ridiculous and malicious your comparison is?

hahaha! okay, let's play who can be more ridiculous!

i'm not even going to engage your line of thinking cuz "liberal" and "public figure" and "want social programs" is pretty genaral.

and the fact that Kelsey Grammer, Famous Conservative, is allegedly not a homophobe or racist (based on what? his own bio? his wiki page? are you his cousin?) all of a sudden i'm malicious?? my whole point was that NOT all conservatives are racists or homophobes.... which was to illustrate that not all "liberals" are the same. dont fall into this coke vs. pepsi trap, the illusion of choice.

people seem to see President Obama as some radical leftist liberal, while i see him as just another "pragmatic" centrist Clinton Democrat willing to compromise and act like a republican when it's deemed the popular thing to do and wont hesitate to sell out his constituency on the REAL left since he knows they have no where else to to turn and the mainstream not-so-liberal media has convinced him that he must "govern from the middle!"

my point, technically Obama and I are both "liberals" and yet we are pretty different.