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[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

but what about New Coke

You must be a little to the left of Mao and Hugo....

Just poking fun

haha! true.
but the people held up as hardcore liberal leftists in this country (Obama, Kerry, Ted Kennedy, the Clintons, etc) are all "pragmatic centrists" IMO.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

haha! true.
but the people held up as hardcore liberal leftists in this country (Obama, Kerry, Ted Kennedy, the Clintons, etc) are all "pragmatic centrists" IMO.

So, who do you consider a "hardcore liberal leftist"? Is anyone who fails to call for the dicatatorship of the proletariat a "pragmatic centerist"?

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

So, who do you consider a "hardcore liberal leftist"? Is anyone who fails to call for the dicatatorship of the proletariat a "pragmatic centerist"?

no, just people like Kucinich or Feingold.... or even Glenn Greenwald who writes for salon. he's dubbed "a liberal" or "someone on the left," but he has plenty of valid criticism for obama and beltway democrats.

skilled politicians like Clinton and Obama know how to appeal to liberals while governing closer to the center.