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[CRedskinsRule]

and in most businesses, if the budget doesn't balance they have to cut back, or find a way to balance it.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

and in most businesses, if the budget doesn't balance they have to cut back, or find a way to balance it.

What business is that? wall street, the banks, Halliburton? Which business? Cut back on the workers an pocket the balance in the form of bonuses. This free market thing you talk about. If you saw you wouldn't recognize it.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

What business is that? wall street, the banks, Halliburton? Which business? Cut back on the workers an pocket the balance in the form of bonuses. This free market thing you talk about. If you saw you wouldn't recognize it.

How about the thousands of small businesses in the United States, including the one I work at, that operates in a fiscally sound (you do know what that means right?) manner, employs 30 people (including naturalized citizens from many parts of the world) and form a backbone of our culture/economy?

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

How about the thousands of small businesses in the United States, including the one I work at, that operates in a fiscally sound (you do know what that means right?) manner, employs 30 people (including naturalized citizens from many parts of the world) and form a backbone of our culture/economy?

got news for you. You trying to sell me on running a country of 300 million people by the same rules as a business with 30 employees? who's gonna give us our small business tax credits and cuts? Who is gonna provide our 300 million people with healthcare? ar you serious? Do you think you think this is a sane analogy? How long have you been smoking outta Ron Paul's meat pipe? Have any computer simulated models?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

got news for you. You trying to sell me on running a country of 300 million people by the same rules as a business with 30 employees? who's gonna give us our small business tax credits and cuts? Who is gonna provide our 300 million people with healthcare? ar you serious? Do you think you think this is a sane analogy? How long have you been smoking outta Ron Paul's meat pipe? Have any computer simulated models?

Let me, firstdown, and any other small business owners on the site know where you find all those "small business tax credits and cuts". We'd all be happy to hear about them.

The only credit that I'm aware of recently is the one where if you hire a previously unemployed worker there's a $ 1000 / yr. credit or so. Most small business are running barebones employee wise in this economy. Unless things make a drastic turn high and to the right, there isn't going to be much hiring in the small business sector.

You also forgot to mention the 3 years increase in the minimum wage from 2007-2009 ($ 5.85 - $ 7.25 / hr.) over 19% in three years. I haven't seen a 19% pay increase during that time, and the revenue from my business hasn't seen a 19% increase either. So who is required to pay the increased wages.....oh right, the small business owner must take from his/her bottom line to cover it.

If Gov't would get out of the way with over-regulation and social engineering, the 300M would be able to obtain cost-effective insurance in the private sector, with the poor qualifying for gov't programs/assistance.

And probably the most important point.....the gov't isn't "giving" us anything with tax credits and cuts. Money (profit) is generated by the small business and is property of the small business owner/s, not the gov't. The tax credits/cuts are just the gov't dictating how much needs to be paid.

P.S. Fairtax eliminates taxes on small business altogether and lets businesses focus and make decisions based on profit, not tax ramifications.