Bashing the Coles-Moss Deal

[Daseal]

The 9M dollar cap hit is the killer. Smoot got a 10.8SB from MN. Not exactly a large figure over what we initially offered.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Daseal

The 9M dollar cap hit is the killer. Smoot got a 10.8SB from MN. Not exactly a large figure over what we initially offered.

You consistently miss the point that the front office was not going to increase their offer to Smoot or Pierce.. The cap room is available to match Smoot's SB (they are sitting at about $2 mil according to the Post the other day AFTER the trade) they chose not to use it.. If they had 11M I doubt they would have matched Minnesota's offer, they just didn't want to pay that much for him..

The 9M cap hit sucks no doubt, but if he was treated like Terry Glenn as reported then everyone would be up in arms saying 'We should have taken the hit and gotten rid of him!!!!'. At least we got something for him.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

You consistently miss the point that the front office was not going to increase their offer to Smoot or Pierce.. The cap room is available to match Smoot's SB (they are sitting at about $2 mil according to the Post the other day AFTER the trade) they chose not to use it.. If they had 11M I doubt they would have matched Minnesota's offer, they just didn't want to pay that much for him..

The 9M cap hit sucks no doubt, but if he was treated like Terry Glenn as reported then everyone would be up in arms saying 'We should have taken the hit and gotten rid of him!!!!'. At least we got something for him.

People also miss the point it's not the bonus that swayed Smoot, it was the way the deal was structured that pays him more over the first 3 years of the deal, alot more than we were willing to pay.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

People also miss the point it's not the bonus that swayed Smoot, it was the way the deal was structured that pays him more over the first 3 years of the deal, alot more than we were willing to pay.

Exactly. The Skins have mastered this the past few years. It is how we got Coles from the Jets. The deal was big no doubt but it was also affordable cap wise for the Jets if structured the right way. The Skins went ahead and made it an impossible deal for them to match cap wise and the rest is history. Bad history now....

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Daseal

The 9M dollar cap hit is the killer. Smoot got a 10.8SB from MN. Not exactly a large figure over what we initially offered.

I'm not gonna bash you about the Smoot thing because, frankly, I don't really care. I knew he wasn't coming back when the season ended and he said he didn't think he was coming back. That said, he's right about the cap hit. You can talk all you want about how we could have matched the Smoot offer people, but if we did, how would we sign our draft picks? The 9 mil cap hit broke our back and left us unable to sign him. I don't really mind, I think he can be replaced and he didn't deserve more dough than Springs.

I just wish we didn't have to take this hit because Moss wants a new deal and I don't know about you all, but I think it hurts us in an attempt to sign draft picks. Can anyone tell me Sean Taylor's cap number from last year?

[jdlea]

Another thing that really bugs me is that the cap hit would have been next to nothing if he would given back the bonus and we would have released him. I don't mind getting Moss out of it, but at $9 mil, that kills us.

[PFunk26]

You know I noticed people keep saying we won't be able to sign our rookies? I read somewhere that Vinny cerrato (however you spell it) said they were budgeting this cap hit ever since Coles starting complaining. I don't think they would have done it if it meant would would lose out on other players. I also think Moss is due for a breakout year the guys only what 25? I think last year was an injury fluke and when all is said and done we may have the better reciever. That toe thing is gonna bite the Jets in the butt eventually and when it does I'll be laughing my way to the super bowl. This offeason is the start to something great. And if I have to hear about how great the Patriots are at personel decisions one more time I'm gonna puke we all know you've een reporting it for like 3-4 years now let it go!