Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I don't hate Obama just don't agree with his politics. Funny when it took Bush a day or so to show up in NO thats all we heard about. This leak is now going on 34 days and the only thing Obama has done was fly over the place and to send in a few people from the NG. So today they say they are forming a commission to investigate the accident. Ok, thats great but isn't a better idea to form a commission to figure out how to stop the leak first. If we can send a man to the moon I'd think if we put them to work on the issue we could have had this stopped by now.

First, first of all, good seeing you again. I was hoping to see you over in the Palin gone wild thread, but that's another story.

Anywho, I think the Katrina v. BP comparison hasn't gotten too much steam in the media is because it was Bush's response to Katrina once it was over is why he caught so much shit.

The federal government is capable of handling a natural disaster (i.e. Katrina). They can issue warnings before hand and provide logistical and medical support during and after the event. And basically get an all hands on deck effort to sustain a full recovery of the affected region(s). It's the man made ones that we have the most trouble with. You hear of no effort to send volunteers to the region impacted, nothing about Red Cross or other organizations getting involved in a substantive way. None of that. This leak really is a different animal, ongoing, and the magnitude of it's impact we seem to be discovering on a daily basis. Especially since it's what, 5.000 feet, below the ocean's surface. How do you even begin to monitor that or predict it in the first place?

The fact is the story changed a few times since it was first reported it as an explosion. Then later we learned that it was more than just that, and now here we are more than a month later and no relief in sight. All the government, the White House, or anyone else can do is wait, unfortunately. Pushing BP out of the way or holding phony pressers, pointing fingers and getting pissed ain't gonna stop that oil from gushing. The ONLY people that know how and are equipped to do is BP and other experts in the oil industry, no one else.

As GMScud said sometime ago, this is really sad on so many levels that the issue of politics and who's right and who's wrong really shouldn't be the focus of this tragic event.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

First, first of all, good seeing you again. I was hoping to see you over in the Palin gone wild thread, but that's another story.

Anywho, I think the Katrina v. BP comparison hasn't gotten too much steam in the media is because it was Bush's response to Katrina once it was over is why he caught so much shit.

The federal government is capable of handling a natural disaster (i.e. Katrina). They can issue warnings before hand and provide logistical and medical support during and after the event. And basically get an all hands on deck effort to sustain a full recovery of the affected region(s). It's the man made ones that we have the most trouble with. You hear of no effort to send volunteers to the region impacted, nothing about Red Cross or other organizations getting involved in a substantive way. None of that. This leak really is a different animal, ongoing ,and the magnitude of it's impact we seem to be discovering on a daily basis. Especially since it's what, 5.000 feet, below the ocean's surface. How do you even begin to monitor that or predict it in the first place?

The fact is the story changed a few times since it was first reported it as an explosion. Then later we learned that it was more than just that, and now here we are more than a month later and no relief in sight. All the government or anyone else can do is wait, unfortunately. Pushing BP out of the way or holding fake pressers pretending to be pointing fingers and getting pissed, ain't gonna stop that oil from gushing. The ONLY people that know how and are equipped to do is BP and other experts in the oil industry, no one else.

As GMScud said sometime ago, this is really said on so many levels that the issue of politics and who's right and who's wrong really shouldn't be the focus of this tragic event.

You mean the story has changed so we can just give the goverment a pass. Didn't NO survive the huricane then a leavy gave way causing flooding. That flooding went on for a few days causing a major obstacle to get crews in when everything is 8' or more under water. If I'm correct didn't the goverment give warning to people to leave the area before the storm ever hit. To me it sounds like the liberals expected better from Bush but they do not expect much of nothing from Obama. By the way that leavy which broke was man made.

I'm also not blaming Obama for this mess but I am blaming him for not providing additional help and minds to figure out how to stop this pipe from leaking. My god we can go into space and repair stuff but the goverment does not have the minds to figure this out. I don't care who comes up with the solution we just need the best minds and resources working on this.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You mean the story has changed so we can just give the goverment a pass. Didn't NO survive the huricane then a leavy gave way causing flooding. That flooding went on for a few days causing a major obstacle to get crews in when everything is 8' or more under water. If I'm correct didn't the goverment give warning to people to leave the area before the storm ever hit. To me it sounds like the liberals expected better from Bush but they do not expect much of nothing from Obama. By the way that leavy which broke was man made.

I'm also not blaming Obama for this mess but I am blaming him for not providing additional help and minds to figure out how to stop this pipe from leaking. My god we can go into space and repair stuff but the goverment does not have the minds to figure this out. I don't care who comes up with the solution we just need the best minds and resources working on this.

You keep saying Obama hasn't provided support, but you fail to say what support he needs to provide that wasn't there on day one. From the very start the administration was on top of this based on the available information. The only expert minds are the ones that work for BP. The federal government aren't experts on oil wells and dealing with leaks. Apparently neither is BP at this point.

The Associated Press: Obama oil response: aggressive as crisis unfolded

I agree with you that I don't care who gets credit or how it's fixed, but it needed to happen last month as fas I'm concerned.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

You keep saying Obama hasn't provided support, but you fail to say what support he needs to provide that wasn't there on day one. From the very start the administration was on top of this based on the available information. The only expert minds are the ones that work for BP. The federal government aren't experts on oil wells and dealing with leaks. Apparently neither is BP at this point.

The Associated Press: Obama oil response: aggressive as crisis unfolded

I agree with you that I don't care who gets credit or how it's fixed, but it needed to happen last month as fas I'm concerned.

Seems to me they want a government take-over of the disaster and a BP's private oil field.