On the radar: Skins WR's

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

What has Williams done to even be in the conversation. Galloway and Moss will start the season as the starters.

To your point....what has Galloway done to be the #2?
I don't even think he's had a single catch in 2 games.
At least Williams has made some catches.
The real question is who is going to be #2?
Armstrong? DT?
The way I see it...Galloway has done nothing at this point and arguably may not even make the squad.
He is just taking critical practice time away from any long term #2 such as DT or maybe even armstrong.
Being undecided at game 3 in preseason with a new QB, new WR, new scheme is definately going to affect timing and may hurt in the first few regular season games

[hail_2_da_skins]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

To your point....what has Galloway done to be the #2?
I don't even think he's had a single catch in 2 games.
At least Williams has made some catches.
The real question is who is going to be #2?
Armstrong? DT?
The way I see it...Galloway has done nothing at this point and arguably may not even make the squad.
He is just taking critical practice time away from any long term #2 such as DT or maybe even armstrong.
Being undecided at game 3 in preseason with a new QB, new WR, new scheme is definately going to affect timing and may hurt in the first few regular season games

I agree with you 100% I haven't seen anything from Joey Galloway to make him #2. Based on performance, Armstrong is the second best receiver in camp. Thomas has been hot and cold but that's good enough to be #3. Banks is too small but might make the team as a returner. We may be looking at the new smurfs with Moss, Armstrong and Banks. Williams has dropped too many passed. Austin hasn't shown me much. Kelly has not even practice and you know, if you don't practice, you don't play for Shanahan

[mitch e]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

I agree with you 100% I haven't seen anything from Joey Galloway to make him #2. Based on performance, Armstrong is the second best receiver in camp. Thomas has been hot and cold but that's good enough to be #3. Banks is too small but might make the team as a returner. We may be looking at the new smurfs with Moss, Armstrong and Banks. Williams has dropped too many passed. Austin hasn't shown me much. Kelly has not even practice and you know, if you don't practice, you don't play for Shanahan

Armstrong is the only WR getting real seperation, I don't know who looks best in practice, but I know who's getting it done in the games.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

To your point....what has Galloway done to be the #2?
I don't even think he's had a single catch in 2 games.
At least Williams has made some catches.
The real question is who is going to be #2?
Armstrong? DT?
The way I see it...Galloway has done nothing at this point and arguably may not even make the squad.
He is just taking critical practice time away from any long term #2 such as DT or maybe even armstrong.
Being undecided at game 3 in preseason with a new QB, new WR, new scheme is definately going to affect timing and may hurt in the first few regular season games

In the post that you quoted, I said who would be #2... Regarding Williams, I don't think he has any more of a chance to be on this team than Wade.

[MTK]

If Kelly makes the team without even practicing, I can't see how DT doesn't make it.

[MTK]

I tend to agree with BHA. I can see Galloway opening up as the #2. I'm not even sure I see Williams making the team.

[Monkeydad]

Roydell won't make the team.

Kelly MIGHT because of his physical stats and "potential", but I'm not sure Shanahan is going to give any free passes.

Moss, Galloway, Thomas, Armstrong are LOCKS. Banks is likely.

Kelly and Austin are possibilities for the final spot.

I don't see Wade or Williams making it.

[SmootSmack]

Galloway has only two things going for him, the veteran respect of his peers and the support of Bruce Allen. That may just be enough, but other than that he hasn't done anything this preseason to merit being a starter on this team.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Galloway has only two things going for him, the veteran respect of his peers and the support of Bruce Allen. That may just be enough, but other than that he hasn't done anything this preseason to merit being a starter on this team.

I agree... and with that being said, I dont think a 38 year old wide receiver who doesnt have a height advantage and doesnt play special teams has any place on the team at all if he isnt a starter.

Now, I think he he'll probably make the team... but he shouldnt. If we rolled with only 5 WRs, i'd rather have Moss, Thomas, Armstrong, Kelly, and Banks/Austin. If we cut Galloway today, he'd still be available if one of our WRs suffered some sort of season ending injury.

[Monkeydad]

He really hasn't been given many opportunities in the preseason games...but at his age, it's a feat to stay healthy through camp.

He'll be a decent depth WR for us. Moss and Thomas will be the clear #1 and #2...with Armstrong coming on strong to challenge them. Galloway will be a possession guy like James Thrash...nowhere to be seen most of the time but will come up with big catches when needed.

[skinsfaninok]

Idk about VJ the guy would be out 6 games. Hell we need him week 1! Outside of STL our other games are very difficult

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Idk about VJ the guy would be out 6 games. Hell we need him week 1! Outside of STL our other games are very difficult

I believe he'd "only" miss the first 3 games if he signs a tender with some team before Sept. 4

I'm not sure he's high on our radar at the moment

[mredskins]

Some think Bucs could provide next home for Haynesworth
Posted by Mike Florio on August 24, 2010 11:37 AM ET
We've been saying for the past few days that the Redskins likely are hoping that a 4-3 defensive tackle on another team tears an ACL in the near future, giving someone a need for Albert Haynesworth -- and the motivation to give up something more than a low-round pick for him.

Barring a season-ending injury to Kevin Williams or Tommie Harris, the Redskins could ultimately find a face-saving path out of the Haynesworth morass via the Buccaneers.

Appearing on a local radio station, Roy Cummings of the Tampa Tribune suggested Monday night that the a trade to the Bucs isn't as crazy as it sounds.

"It makes a great deal of sense and here's why," Cummings said, via JoeBucsFan.com. "Don't forget, the Buccaneers were the team that offered Albert Haynesworth more money than anybody else in the NFL last year. A lot of people forget that -- conveniently want to ignore that fact. . . .

'You know what, I think it makes all kinds of sense," Cummings said, seemingly warming up to the idea on the fly. "It's a ballsy move. I don't know if he's going to do it. They do want to be young here more than anything. But you know what, if Stylez White can't wake up in these last two preseason games and show them what he's got, why not? Go give it a shot. I mean, money really is not an issue. People don't want to believe that here. Everybody, you know, on your end of things here in Tampa Bay wants to keep talking about money here and money there and how much the Glazers are or are not spending. I can tell you right now, if they think can get Albert Haynesworth, and it ends up becoming a wash in terms of what the payroll is, they'll do it. And they'll go out and get him. And you know what, he'll make the team a better football team in a hurry."

The only surprise in Cumming's comments comes from the disclosure (which was made in the question posed to Cummings) that Haynesworth actually wants to play defensive end in a 4-3 scheme. Maybe we haven't been paying attention as closely as we should, but we think he wants to play defensive tackle in a 4-3. If he's interested in being a defensive end in a 4-3 alignment, he'd be lobbying for some snaps at the equivalent position in the 3-4 -- outside linebacker.

Regardless of whether he'd play outside or bolster the rookie-heaving rotation on the inside in Tampa, Haynesworth makes sense from an Xs and Os standpoint.

And here's where it gets interesting. Cummings thinks that Tampa receiver Michael Clayton would be an attractive addition to the trade package. "[L]et's not forget, Bruce Allen drafted Michael Clayton," Cummings said. "One thing Bruce Allen will always do as an NFL General Manager is try to prove that many mistakes he's made as a General Manager were not mistakes at all. He's not good at what he does. And he makes a situation worse by trying to constantly prove that he did not make a mistake in drafting this guy in the first round, second round, third round. . . . I wouldn't be surprised to see him do it again."

Right, but this presumes Allen actually has the juice in D.C. To get the Redskins interested in Clayton, coach Mike Shanahan will have to be interested in Clayton. That said, given the team's overall quality at the position, it may not be a hard sell for Allen to make.

That said, it'll likely take more than Clayton to get Haynesworth. But if the Redskins truly want to get rid of a guy who has three years (as a practical matter) left on his contract at less than $20 million, the Bucs could provide a semi-face-saving strategy for making it happen.

[skinsfaninok]

I can't see us trading AH just for Clayton? Why would we do that? Clayton had 1 good year and that was his rookie yr. Id rather get VJ for a second rder

[SmootSmack]

The only hitch in this whole "Let's not forget Bruce Allen drafted Michael Clayton" argument is that Clayton was Gruden's choice, not Allen's