Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You really don't think there are not companies that the US could contract to help resolve this issue.

Take a deep breath and sit down for this first, I have some earth shattering news for you:

The private sector does not have the answer for everything.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Take a deep breath and sit down for this first, I have some earth shattering news for you:

The private sector does not have the answer for everything.

Maybe not, but with the right motivation the private sector very often finds a workable solution. In this case, clearly with govt support, there are several motivating factors for a private sector oil leader to come up with a solution. 1) if a company makes a breakthrough and finds a creative, effective way to end this, they get HIGH Publicity and advertising capital for their company. 2) if the solution is patent-able, they could make a profit by their design. 3) the company that stops it, if BP were to throw up their hands, would have an upper hand in the foreseeable future of deep sea drilling.

IF, and I don't believe this will be the case, it goes unstopped till August, this will be the equivalent to deepsea drilling that 3-Mile island was to Nuclear energy in this country.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Maybe not, but with the right motivation the private sector very often finds a workable solution. In this case, clearly with govt support, there are several motivating factors for a private sector oil leader to come up with a solution. 1) if a company makes a breakthrough and finds a creative, effective way to end this, they get HIGH Publicity and advertising capital for their company. 2) if the solution is patent-able, they could make a profit by their design. 3) the company that stops it, if BP were to throw up their hands, would have an upper hand in the foreseeable future of deep sea drilling.

IF, and I don't believe this will be the case, it goes unstopped till August, this will be the equivalent to deepsea drilling that 3-Mile island was to Nuclear energy in this country.

It seems there are a lot of arm-chair deep sea engineers around these days. The problem isn't so trivial...if anyone had a solution you don't think BP itself would have contract them? Also, this is a time sensitive issue so no one is going to stick their neck out just because they "think" they have a solution. Plus no one wants their name mentioned in a liability lawsuit.

Anywho, as it stands this problem is being "solved" by BP and its silent partners including Exxon Mobile.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

It seems there are a lot of arm-chair deep sea engineers around these days. The problem isn't so trivial...if anyone had a solution you don't think BP itself would have contract them? Also, this is a time sensitive issue so no one is going to stick their neck out just because they "think" they have a solution. Plus no one wants their name mentioned in a liability lawsuit.

Anywho, as it stands this problem is being "solved" by BP and its silent partners including Exxon Mobile.

Please don't misrepresent my words. This is not a trivial exercise. HOWEVER, the motivation to put resources towards being the company that develops a solution increases as the time goes on.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Please don't misrepresent my words. This is not a trivial exercise. HOWEVER, the motivation to put resources towards being the company that develops a solution increases as the time goes on.

Misrepresent your words? Huh? I merely expanded on the subject.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

Misrepresent your words? Huh? I merely expanded on the subject.

Gotcha. Sorry.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by saden1

It seems there are a lot of arm-chair deep sea engineers around these days. The problem isn't so trivial...if anyone had a solution you don't think BP itself would have contract them? Also, this is a time sensitive issue so no one is going to stick their neck out just because they "think" they have a solution. Plus no one wants their name mentioned in a liability lawsuit.

Anywho, as it stands this problem is being "solved" by BP and its silent partners including Exxon Mobile.

lol so true

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

lol so true

I kid you not, I had this one numb-nut at the bar tell me "we should nuke it, turn the seabed into glass and be done with it."

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

I kid you not, I had this one numb-nut at the bar tell me "we should nuke it, turn the seabed into glass and be done with it."

A bit more complicated than "turn the seabed to glass" but an option that should be investigated if it has a track record of success. At this point no option should be off the table.

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[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

A bit more complicated than "turn the seabed to glass" but an option that should be investigated if it has a track record of success. At this point no option should be off the table.

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Anybody on TV has an idea of how to stop the leak, dag

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Maybe not, but with the right motivation the private sector very often finds a workable solution. In this case, clearly with govt support, there are several motivating factors for a private sector oil leader to come up with a solution. 1) if a company makes a breakthrough and finds a creative, effective way to end this, they get HIGH Publicity and advertising capital for their company. 2) if the solution is patent-able, they could make a profit by their design. 3) the company that stops it, if BP were to throw up their hands, would have an upper hand in the foreseeable future of deep sea drilling.

IF, and I don't believe this will be the case, it goes unstopped till August, this will be the equivalent to deepsea drilling that 3-Mile island was to Nuclear energy in this country.

Of course it does. In fact, the private sector is likely to have 1) more flexibility and 2) greater ability to "think outside the box" in looking for solutions. On the other hand, the private sector probably does not have the spectrum of resources that government entities have. I do not doubt that the public sector can marshall more and broader information (including wide ranges of specialists) and manpower (in the short term) than the private sector and, conversely that application of those resources can be done more efficiently and with more innovation by the private sector.

Mustering large amounts of short term manpower & gathering information (mundane and specialized) and specialists across a broad spectrum of knowledge? Public Sector.

Applying those resources and information to find new and innovative solutions? Private Sector.

Obviously, this is an oversimplification and the devil is in the details. But step one in finding a solution is recognizing what each group does well.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Take a deep breath and sit down for this first, I have some earth shattering news for you:

The private sector does not have the answer for everything.

If you go back I was asking earlier in this thread why Obama was not doing anything to help get this stopped. He answered that the other day because he said 300 times and his adminisrtation has said 600 times that they have been there sense day 1.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by joeredskin

take a deep breath and sit down for this first, i have some earth shattering news for you:

The private sector does not have the answer for everything.

double take

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

double take

Oh.- You mean you are surprised when you're neat little over simplifications and sweeping generalities actually paint an inaccurate picture? You must walk around with a constant look of shock on your face.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Oh.- You mean you are surprised when you're neat little over simplifications and sweeping generalities actually paint an inaccurate picture? You must walk around with a constant look of shock on your face.

You get a win. U win the battle. Rummy