Positive remark on McNabb

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Zorn sure did suck as a play caller. I mean i know we've had bad teams before but my god was that man pathetic.

Couldn't ask for a nicer guy, but he wasn't cut out to be a head coach, let alone playcaller.

I'm guessing your trying to keep it medium?

[SolidSnake84]

I think it's unfair pressure on McNabb really, to all of a sudden be expected to be "the answer". I am not a huge McNabb fan, but i respect him as a person and what he has done for the Eagles, but the truth of the matter is that Campbell was such a poor quarterback here, along with a myriad of other problems, that it places undue expectations on Donovan, who is surely in the twilight of his career.

IMO, they would have gave themselves just as much chance of success this year by drafting a young new QB to go along with the new system that they are building here. Donovan will be good for a year maybe even two, but what worries me the most is that there is nobody behind him that can be a legitimate starter when he goes down. Colt is the only guy i see who could be molded into a starter. Rex was a failed experiment. I dunno about Bartel, or even if he will be here when the season starts.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I think it's unfair pressure on McNabb really, to all of a sudden be expected to be "the answer". I am not a huge McNabb fan, but i respect him as a person and what he has done for the Eagles, but the truth of the matter is that Campbell was such a poor quarterback here, along with a myriad of other problems, that it places undue expectations on Donovan, who is surely in the twilight of his career.

IMO, they would have gave themselves just as much chance of success this year by drafting a young new QB to go along with the new system that they are building here. Donovan will be good for a year maybe even two, but what worries me the most is that there is nobody behind him that can be a legitimate starter when he goes down. Colt is the only guy i see who could be molded into a starter. Rex was a failed experiment. I dunno about Bartel, or even if he will be here when the season starts.

Donovan is going to be the most closely watched player we've traded for in a long while. The pressure he'll be under may or may not be justified, but it comes with the territory and the position he plays. Because he has been a combination of both success and failure, the scrunity will be heightened depending on how successful he is in leading the team to a winning season. God forbid he get's injured.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Donovan is going to be the most closely watched player we've traded for in a long while. The pressure he'll be under may or may not be justified, but it comes with the territory and the position he plays. Because he has been a combination of both success and failure, the scrunity will be heightened depending on how successful he is in leading the team to a winning season. God forbid he get's injured.

From what I've heard so far on how the other QBs are doing during the OTAs...we're screwed...but it's early still...still time to get Chase Daniel back!

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

From what I've heard so far on how the other QBs are doing during the OTAs...we're screwed...but it's early still...still time to get Chase Daniel back!

That's the one thing a lot of people are concerned about, if Donovan goes down then what? Most people I talk too are certainly not enthused about Grossman being the #2 QB. I guess unless something unforeseen develops, it is what it is.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

That's the one thing a lot of people are concerned about, if Donovan goes down then what? Most people I talk too are certainly not enthused about Grossman being the #2 QB. I guess unless something unforeseen develops, it is what it is.

We still have Colt.

[DIRTEE]

I love our QB rotation. Each one knows how to get rid of the ball in a quick manner.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by DIRTEE

I love our QB rotation. Each one knows how to get rid of the ball in a quick manner.

Without any specific knowledge of Colt's ability to get rid of the ball (his sack rate in college was a pretty average 5.3%), I'd say that what you mention is an ability pretty exclusive to Grossman among our quarterbacks.

Problem with Grossman is not that he can't make lightning quick decisions, its that they're usually horrible ones.

[rbanerjee23]

^^ haha, you love rex grossman managing a game?? Unfortunately, I don't have your confidence.

[DIRTEE]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

^^ haha, you love rex grossman managing a game?? Unfortunately, I don't have your confidence.

I think that Grossman is a great backup and Colt is a great 3rd stringer. This isn't a Pro Bowl game, you're not going to have 3 Hall of Famers as QB's.

[Lotus]

We also have the great Richard Bartel.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by DIRTEE

I think that Grossman is a great backup and Colt is a great 3rd stringer. This isn't a Pro Bowl game, you're not going to have 3 Hall of Famers as QB's.

If you're down by 10 and its the start of the 4th quarter and McNabb goes down, is Grossman going to bring us back? Is Colt? you can't pick an extreme like having a HOFer as a backup - but servicable/decent is an acceptable expectation.

Grossman is decent and probably won't lose the game for you as a backup but is he going to get those 10 points? Don't bet on it. Also, Colt would get annihilated if he were actually put in a game against any team in the NFC beast so he shouldn't even be in the conversation.

[DIRTEE]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

If you're down by 10 and its the start of the 4th quarter and McNabb goes down, is Grossman going to bring us back? Is Colt? you can't pick an extreme like having a HOFer as a backup - but servicable/decent is an acceptable expectation.

Grossman is decent and probably won't lose the game for you as a backup but is he going to get those 10 points? Don't bet on it. Also, Colt would get annihilated if he were actually put in a game against any team in the NFC beast so he shouldn't even be in the conversation.

I'm going to continue to believe that Rex and Colt are game ready until I see otherwise. They both can throw a nice long ball, so anything is possible.

[Duffman003]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

If you're down by 10 and its the start of the 4th quarter and McNabb goes down, is Grossman going to bring us back? Is Colt? you can't pick an extreme like having a HOFer as a backup - but servicable/decent is an acceptable expectation.

Grossman is decent and probably won't lose the game for you as a backup but is he going to get those 10 points? Don't bet on it. Also, Colt would get annihilated if he were actually put in a game against any team in the NFC beast so he shouldn't even be in the conversation.

I wouldn't bet on many starters to get me those 10 points.

[SirClintonPortis]

Nothing new here, as this has always been a part of McNabb's game. Even if he's slower, buying that extra second can still be the difference between a first down and a sack or incompletion.

What matters with regards to McNabb's play is mitigating the periods of utter suck he sometimes lapses into. Hopefully, the more balanced playcalling of the younger Shanahan will do that adequately.