Revis and Mankins Not Happy

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Revis was asked if he'd settle for $1 more than Asomugha. He smiled.

"It can be 50 cents more," he said. "Just give me 50 cents more and we'll be okay."

WHAT A DOUCHE. Just because you're the best that extra few million will make you happy?!

Yeah that kind of stuff is wild. Instantly saying he's better after his 3 years and deserves more.. some teams have more money to put towards an individual position.

And with Mankins wanting something like Jahri Evans who gets like 8/year and 7/year isn't enough. Kind of wild, I guess when you're one of the best you can do that though.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Yeah that kind of stuff is wild. Instantly saying he's better after his 3 years and deserves more.. some teams have more money to put towards an individual position.

And with Mankins wanting something like Jahri Evans who gets like 8/year and 7/year isn't enough. Kind of wild, I guess when you're one of the best you can do that though.

Corners are becoming a dime a dozen. If you watch the NFL draft you know what I mean. 33 Corners were selected this year, most of any position. In fact to compare there were 38 Offensive lineman selected, thats guards, tackles, an centers combined. And that still pales in comparison to the 52 Defensive Backs selected.

Also last year 36 Corners were selected, most among all positions. 2008 - 30 Corners - 2nd highest behind Recievers at 35. 2007 - 30 Corners selected - 3rd highest position behind LB and Reciever. That makes 129 Corners selected since 2007. Most of any position.

Personally I don't get teams infatuation with Corners. I personally feel that a great safety does more for your team then an elite corner. Not to mention I would much rather prefer a strong defensive front that can dominate the line of scrimmage then a bunch of corners that have to cover for 5 or 6 seconds on every play.

I personally like the Bill Belicheck way of doing things. Build your team around guys who play closest to the line of scrimmage. Then worry about the secondary and receivers. Those premadonnas can wait awhile.

Though as a disclaimer I think part of my disdain comes from the selection of Los, Tryon, and Barnes. Tryon and Barnes because we needed lineman and Los because while he did end up being a quality player he still resulted in us passing on both Ware and Merriman, though these days I'm not to sad about passing up on Merriman. It remains to be seen if 56 owes a lot of his success to PED's.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Corners are becoming a dime a dozen. If you watch the NFL draft you know what I mean. 33 Corners were selected this year, most of any position. In fact to compare there were 38 Offensive lineman selected, thats guards, tackles, an centers combined. And that still pales in comparison to the 52 Defensive Backs selected.

Also last year 36 Corners were selected, most among all positions. 2008 - 30 Corners - 2nd highest behind Recievers at 35. 2007 - 30 Corners selected - 3rd highest position behind LB and Reciever. That makes 129 Corners selected since 2007. Most of any position.

Personally I don't get teams infatuation with Corners. I personally feel that a great safety does more for your team then an elite corner. Not to mention I would much rather prefer a strong defensive front that can dominate the line of scrimmage then a bunch of corners that have to cover for 5 or 6 seconds on every play.

I personally like the Bill Belicheck way of doing things. Build your team around guys who play closest to the line of scrimmage. Then worry about the secondary and receivers. Those premadonnas can wait awhile.

Though as a disclaimer I think part of my disdain comes from the selection of Los, Tryon, and Barnes. Tryon and Barnes because we needed lineman and Los because while he did end up being a quality player he still resulted in us passing on both Ware and Merriman, though these days I'm not to sad about passing up on Merriman. It remains to be seen if 56 owes a lot of his success to PED's.

I agree. BB learned from Parcells. You win with big people, not small ones. Tryon. Barnes and Los were not horrible picks but they certainly were not good ones either. And the stuff Merriman was taking doesn't make you a good football player. He's legit wheter he's on the juice or not. He's just been slowed by injuries but he's still a better football player than Rogers.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Corners are becoming a dime a dozen. If you watch the NFL draft you know what I mean. 33 Corners were selected this year, most of any position. In fact to compare there were 38 Offensive lineman selected, thats guards, tackles, an centers combined. And that still pales in comparison to the 52 Defensive Backs selected.

Also last year 36 Corners were selected, most among all positions. 2008 - 30 Corners - 2nd highest behind Recievers at 35. 2007 - 30 Corners selected - 3rd highest position behind LB and Reciever. That makes 129 Corners selected since 2007. Most of any position.

Personally I don't get teams infatuation with Corners. I personally feel that a great safety does more for your team then an elite corner. Not to mention I would much rather prefer a strong defensive front that can dominate the line of scrimmage then a bunch of corners that have to cover for 5 or 6 seconds on every play.

I personally like the Bill Belicheck way of doing things. Build your team around guys who play closest to the line of scrimmage. Then worry about the secondary and receivers. Those premadonnas can wait awhile.

Though as a disclaimer I think part of my disdain comes from the selection of Los, Tryon, and Barnes. Tryon and Barnes because we needed lineman and Los because while he did end up being a quality player he still resulted in us passing on both Ware and Merriman, though these days I'm not to sad about passing up on Merriman. It remains to be seen if 56 owes a lot of his success to PED's.

Kinda simple when you think about it. It's a passing league now. Teams want/need at least 3 starting quality corners in order to compete with teams that are stacked 3-4 deep at WR.

There are different ways to build a D, but at the end of the day you still need guys that can cover regardless of your front 7.

[Giantone]

Mattyk, thing is it's your front 7 that makes your DB's.(IMO)Without a good front 7 those DB's will be going crazy(like the Giants last year) ,yeah they need to be good and I'm don't want to take away anything but when a DB doesn't have to worry about the run becuase he knows his guys up front can do it then he only needs to concentrate on the reciever.