Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Buster

To replace Rabach? Definitely.

Old and solid > Old and Rabach

I really wonder if the FO is even looking at him. I would absolutely be happy to see him on the team for a reasonable salary...

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Would you sign Mawae? Old but solid talent.

Been saying the above forever. If we are intent on winning now, I dont see why we woldn't sign this guy. The price isn't too bad...........and I think we could squeeze this season and next out of him. Guys a beast and in very good shape. Getting to the probowl at his age???? He is a specimen.

We should start a SIGN Kevin Mawae movement. Casey would be a good backup, but a starter???????

UGHHHHHHHHHHHH...........

Lets go BA and MS >>>>>>>>SIGN MAWAE and WIN NOW!!!!!

[JoeRedskin]

Anyone think this could be a problem under the current regime:

"Bushrod also is viewed as a good locker room guy. Brown didn’t have that reputation with the Saints and his conditioning sometimes had been an issue."

Saints' trade of Brown now done - NFC South Blog - ESPN

Just from what I've seen in how Shanahan appears to handle players (say the right thing, seemingly require the right things), I think it will become a non-issue. Under the past regime, a player like this would have been aquired at a higher cost and then allowed to "have his way". I get the feeling Shanny is very much a "put up or get the hell out" kind of guy.

Again, to me, it is the culture change that seems the most obvious. Yes, I know Shanny has his limitations. Yes, I know he has an ego the size of Alaska. Yes, he D's have not been anything to write home about and he is making a fundamental change in the way the Skins play defense. But, love or hate the switch to a hybrid 3-4, it just seems that there is a plan in place. (Let's sign 3 or 4 guys to play NT in case AH becomes a problem, lets see if we can get some quality talent at without crippling our cap or our ability to start stocking through the draft).

All this while Allen is rebuilding ties with the players who remember what winning is all about.

To me, this move is just the latest in a plan. Finally, there is method rather than just madness.

We may not win 10 games this year (although we might if T. Williams pans out and the interior lineman are able to play with consistency - i.e. same guys week in and week out), but, for the first time in three or four years, I am feeling good about our O-line.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Anyone think this could be a problem under the current regime:

"Bushrod also is viewed as a good locker room guy. Brown didn’t have that reputation with the Saints and his conditioning sometimes had been an issue."

Saints' trade of Brown now done - NFC South Blog - ESPN

Just from what I've seen in how Shanahan appears to handle players (say the right thing, seemingly require the right things), I think it will become a non-issue. Under the past regime, a player like this would have been aquired at a higher cost and then allowed to "have his way". I get the feeling Shanny is very much a "put up or get the hell out" kind of guy.

Again, to me, it is the culture change that seems the most obvious. Yes, I know Shanny has his limitations. Yes, I know he has an ego the size of Alaska. Yes, he D's have not been anything to write home about and he is making a fundamental change in the way the Skins play defense. But, love or hate the switch to a hybrid 3-4, it just seems that there is a plan in place. (Let's sign 3 or 4 guys to play NT in case AH becomes a problem, lets see if we can get some quality talent at without crippling our cap or our ability to start stocking through the draft).

All this while Allen is rebuilding ties with the players who remember what winning is all about.

To me, this move is just the latest in a plan. Finally, there is method rather than just madness.

We may not win 10 games this year (although we might if T. Williams pans out and the interior lineman are able to play with consistency - i.e. same guys week in and week out), but, for the first time in three or four years, I am feeling good about our O-line.

My only concern with Brown is he didn't play in 2009 because of an injury. But Dr. Andrews says he's ok and he passed his physical, so I guess he's good to go.

I'm not worried about conditioning issues or work ethic/locker room stuff. He's 29 and looking for one more big pay-day. He's got all the incentive in the world to work his tail off. If I had to guess, I'd say he'll have a pro-bowl caliber year protecting McNabb's strong side.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Of course, I love the trade and cant't believe we got him at such a bargain price. However, i'm somewhat concerned that 2010 will be his only season with the team. He views himself as a LT (probably rightly so) and we're bringing him here to play RT. Early reports were that no contract would be worked out soon. I'm guessing Brown's going to make the pro-bowl at RT this year and enter free agency so he can collect LT money. Even if we offered him LT money to play RT, I honestly don't know if he would take it.

The "best case" scenario for us would be for be for Williams to struggle early on and get moved to RT. Then, with Brown at LT, we could negotiate an extension where he'd be an LT making LT money.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Of course, I love the trade and cant't believe we got him at such a bargain price. However, i'm somewhat concerned that 2010 will be his only season with the team. He views himself as a LT (probably rightly so) and we're bringing him here to play RT. Early reports were that no contract would be worked out soon. I'm guessing Brown's going to make the pro-bowl at RT this year and enter free agency so he can collect LT money. Even if we offered him LT money to play RT, I honestly don't know if he would take it.

The "best case" scenario for us would be for be for Williams to struggle early on and get moved to RT. Then, with Brown at LT, we could negotiate an extension where he'd be an LT making LT money.

RT's don't get voted to the Pro Bowl.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Angry

RT's don't get voted to the Pro Bowl.

Do they volunteer? I recall being at the Pro Bowl in February and I'm pretty sure I saw RT playing in the game. If they don't get voted to the Pro Bowl, how do they determine who plays?

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Do they volunteer? I recall being at the Pro Bowl in February and I'm pretty sure I saw RT playing in the game. If they don't get voted to the Pro Bowl, how do they determine who plays?

There's no differentiation. It's just tackles on the ballot.

The top left tackles always go to Hawaii.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Do they volunteer? I recall being at the Pro Bowl in February and I'm pretty sure I saw RT playing in the game. If they don't get voted to the Pro Bowl, how do they determine who plays?

Only LT's get voted to the Pro Bowl and one of them gets moved to the right side. See Chris Samuels it happend to him a couple of times.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Angry

RT's don't get voted to the Pro Bowl.

John Stinchcomb did this past year.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

John Stinchcomb did this past year.

Look at the history, it is very unusual. In light of Stinchcomb, I don't think that being Drew Brees's RT on an almost undefeated team had anything to do with that.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Angry

Look at the history, it is very unusual. In light of Stinchcomb, I don't think that being Drew Brees's RT on an almost undefeated team had anything to do with that.

As did playing across from Jermon Bushrod.

If a Redskins tackle goes to the pro bowl this year, it will almost certainly be Trent Williams. Of course, it takes 2 to 3 years for popular opinion of a lineman's play to permeate throughout the league, so in other words, we're not sending a lineman to the pro bowl this year.

[Defensewins]

I am more concerned about Jammal being healthy thatn the contract.
Jammal Brwon has had a year off of football due to injury. He has had plenty of time to get in shape. If he is not in great shape at this point, I worry about his work ethic. His history of injury in the NFL is a concern. Is he recovered from his hip and hernia injuries? Did he work hard in rehab?

[Trample the Elderly]

I don't know about this one? I like my draft picks. We'll see.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I am more concerned about Jammal being healthy thatn the contract.
Jammal Brwon has had a year off of football due to injury. He has had plenty of time to get in shape. If he is not in great shape at this point, I worry about his work ethic. His history of injury in the NFL is a concern. Is he recovered from his hip and hernia injuries? Did he work hard in rehab?

I'm quite the opposite. I'm not even remotely concerned about his health or work ethic. In the three years prior to last year, he started 15 games a year. And i don't think hernias or hip injuries typically have lingering effects. Brown said in an interview he has been fully recovered since before the playoffs began last year and if he hadn't been IRed, he'd have been good to go. I've also never read anything about him that would imply he has a questionable work ethic. From a character perspective, this guy seems like Chris Samuels 2.0.