Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[tryfuhl]

but come on.. you're gonna fault Barack for playing golf? guys like Bush and Reagan took presidential vacation to the extreme

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

but come on.. you're gonna fault Barack for playing golf? guys like Bush and Reagan took presidential vacation to the extreme

And I would fault Bush and Reagan equally in this case as well. I have no issue with the POTUS taking time to himself and his family. He should as a matter of fact. I don't care if you're left or right, you should be a little more tactful with your free time as the President. With what's going on in the gulf, it's bad PR to be seen leisurely shooting 18 holes IMO. This isn't me being a Republican bashing a Dem. This is me being an annoyed citizen. If I'm Obama and I know my approval ratings are slipping as badly as they are, I'm probably not golfing for all the world to see at this point. I'd say the same thing if McCain was prez and he was hitting the links today.

[tryfuhl]

vacation during an oil spill, vacation during a war.. the way this country is running through the past SEVERAL presidencies not a single one should get a vacation day if we're talking about negative things going on

unfortunately there's only so much he can do every single day about it.. and just playing 18 doesn't mean you didn't hit the office at all or at least get briefed on it

I mean do you want him pushing more legislature on this or what?

I'm not saying Obama is perfect or even the guy that I wanted him to be (because he's not) but I find it hard to fault him for going a round the day before Father's Day. This could've been arranged for him as a gift for all that we know.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

jtf - your prayers have been answered:

FOXNews.com - With No Gulf Solution in Sight, Louisiana Turns to Prayer

tryfuhl - Bush actually quit golf in Oct. 2003.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

jtf - your prayers have been answered:

FOXNews.com - With No Gulf Solution in Sight, Louisiana Turns to Prayer

tryfuhl - Bush actually quit golf in Oct. 2003.

And picked up clearing brushes and riding a bicycles. Presidents are not drones expected to work 24/7, they have personal lives and are permitted to time-off to recharge their happy-meter.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I went to see Chelsea Handler in Richmond last night and thought this was a hilarious point...

It's a British company on a foreign rig in the Gulf of Mexico, yet the USA is the country to blame? I know that might be making light of the situation, but isn't it a little true, especially considering Mexico has some stake in the Gulf too?

[GMScud]

Obama spill panel big on policy, not engineering - Yahoo! News

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

jtf - your prayers have been answered:

FOXNews.com - With No Gulf Solution in Sight, Louisiana Turns to Prayer

tryfuhl - Bush actually quit golf in Oct. 2003.

did he quit vacationing altogether?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Obama spill panel big on policy, not engineering - Yahoo! News

"The panel appointed by President Barack Obama to investigate the Gulf of Mexico oil spill is short on technical expertise "

Every damned panel on every subject is short on technical expertise.. we're literally talking about a lot of guys who are old as shit and have no clue about modern practices.. it's a shame really.. not that every congressman is old but how do you expect someone making a career in politics to really know about much else? they know perception and that's about it... and the people feeding them info have their biases and agendas and the congressmen definitely have their own as well

I'm not a huge fan of the legislative branch and I don't care if it's 100% dem, 100% repub, 50/50 or 100% independent.. the system is flawed itself

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

"The panel appointed by President Barack Obama to investigate the Gulf of Mexico oil spill is short on technical expertise "

Every damned panel on every subject is short on technical expertise.. we're literally talking about a lot of guys who are old as shit and have no clue about modern practices.. it's a shame really.. not that every congressman is old but how do you expect someone making a career in politics to really know about much else? they know perception and that's about it... and the people feeding them info have their biases and agendas and the congressmen definitely have their own as well

I'm not a huge fan of the legislative branch and I don't care if it's 100% dem, 100% repub, 50/50 or 100% independent.. the system is flawed itself

Cioporate America is short on technical expertise period. There in lies our biggest problem. We reward loyalty so we wind up short on talent.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

And picked up clearing brushes and riding a bicycles. Presidents are not drones expected to work 24/7, they have personal lives and are permitted to time-off to recharge their happy-meter.

I have never understood people's harping on vacations by the President (any President). Regardless of political views, this is the guy that has to respond in an instant in case of emergencies. Has to put his name on a bunch of legislation. Do we as citizens want him/her to be on a short fuse, or a frustrated/frazzled mind set. I am fairly confident that no matter what "vacation" they take, they still get morning briefings, still give basic guidance and directives. People who b**** about that usually don't like the politics of the guy and really just want to smear him, again this is our political system. Personally, I would be very happy if the whole congress/executive branch had a required 3-4 month period where they had to focus on working a "regular" job, and away from the political bickering, only to be called up if an emergency session was needed.

[GMScud]

Can't have it both ways, Obama:

White House mocks Heyward's yachting...

and defends Obama's golfing.

[tryfuhl]

Do you want Obama down there with his own skimming net or something?

[tryfuhl]

I mean it's not like the oil spill is the ONLY thing that they're focusing on in the White House. He doesn't spend 6 hours a day on it I'm pretty sure.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Do you want Obama down there with his own skimming net or something?

Read my previous post about how I think Obama should be spending his leisure time. I never said he had to spend 100% of every day working, or even working on BP for that matter.

Also, if they are going to blast Heyward, they shouldn't be such staunch defenders of Obama's golf game. Just don't say anything about Heyward if Obama is going to be at baseball games and golfing.

I think Heyward is a douche, and I don't condone either one of them conducting such public leisure with this crisis going on.