Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Ok, I am not one of those who believes that we are doing things as we have in the past.

Hell if these guys can get this deal done and get another piece of our offense in place. I am all for it. Just don't want to mortgage our future draft picks is all.

BUT like I mentioned in an earlier post I do not like drafting WR in the draft. These guys seem to miss more than succeed.

What if (that's IF) we didn't draft a WR in Austin but a kick-butt kick returner?

[warpaint]

Austin doesn't have to do much, seeing as the bar was set so low by ARE.

Thank goodness he is gone what a waste.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Austin doesn't have to do much, seeing as the bar was set so low by ARE.

Thank goodness he is gone what a waste.

I admit when we signed ARE, I was pretty excited simply because he was a very good number 2 in Pittsburg and a solid returner. Then he came to Washington and had maybe 2-3 games with 100 yds receiving and only one good return game that I can remember.. ( colts game). Atleast Santana hasn't been a dissapointment since we traded for him.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I admit when we signed ARE, I was pretty excited simply because he was a very good number 2 in Pittsburg and a solid returner. Then he came to Washington and had maybe 2-3 games with 100 yds receiving and only one good return game that I can remember.. ( colts game). Atleast Santana hasn't been a dissapointment since we traded for him.

Me to I couldn't wait to start seeing some reverses for TD's and then reality set in.

[dmek25]

how the hell did this go from Jackson to Obama?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by dmek25

how the hell did this go from Jackson to Obama?

LOL No Joke...

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by dmek25

how the hell did this go from Jackson to Obama?

Agreed, leave the political talk to the parking lot threads.

[SBXVII]

Gus, I think you used a terrible analogy. I think a GM and HC have a far greater chance of changing around a bad team quicker vs. a new President and a few new Congressmen. Not only is the President working with a far greater debt he has to satisfy other people to agree with him and vote in his policies. A new GM can hire whatever coach he wants, whatever coaching staff he wants, whatever scouting department he wants, and whatever players he thinks he needs with in reason. Yes the owner does write the checks so that is why I said within reason. But with someone like DS who is willing to spend.... Allen and Shanny have a far better chance of changing things at Redskins Park vs. Obama and Congress. Imagine if Allen had to run everything through a group of people who had to vote on whether anything he presented was a good course of action. The Skins would never change.

You would have better off using an anology of a business owner. He can fire all his employees and hire a whole new staff but the business will still continue to be crappy and not succeed if the owner does not change his goals or business plan. Otherwise he gets the same product out of different management and employees.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

well it is the 4th of july. so if this deal is getting done it will be today, following all the other offseason trades.

But regardless of all of that Happy 4Th of July everyone!

[NYCskinfan82]

San Diego Chargers Wide Receiver Vincent Jackson's Breakout Season Didn't Come Until His Forth Year in the NFL - Hogs Haven

Some lite reading. Just 24 days until training camp starts.

HTTR.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Nice read nyc, i wonder how MS felt about our 2 WR two years ago when he drafted eddie royal for Denver? If he didnt feel that these 2 had something for him maybe thats why he isn't really giving him a fair shot now. Of course BA could be the one trying to push for VJ with mike not putting up much of a fight becuase he did like vj coming out college. I dont know time will tell how this goes down.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Nice read nyc, i wonder how MS felt about our 2 WR two years ago when he drafted eddie royal for Denver? If he didnt feel that these 2 had something for him maybe thats why he isn't really giving him a fair shot now. Of course BA could be the one trying to push for VJ with mike not putting up much of a fight becuase he did like vj coming out college. I dont know time will tell how this goes down.

I don't see BA really trying to overstep Shanny on personnel. I think it'd be more Shanny wanting him and telling Bruce to see what it will take.

[NYCskinfan82]

I think with the better coaching we will be better. We don't need to get VJ but if the FO thinks yes then I'll role with their opinion.

HTTR.

[skinsfan_nn]

Chargers still playing hardball with Vincent Jackson

Twitter / Adam Schefter: League sources say Charger ...

Posted by Mike Florio on July 5, 2010 10:33 AM ET

The San Diego Chargers continue to put the screws to receiver Vincent Jackson.

The four-year veteran, who would have been an unrestricted free agent but for the disappearance of the salary cap, became a recipient of the highest possible restricted free agency tender. No one made a run at him during the RFA signing period, which isn't surprising given that only one player signed an offer sheet this year as a restricted free agent. With no long-term deal reached between the two sides (blame it on the uncertainty coming from the lack of a new CBA, or collusion), Jackson opted not to sign his tender offer.

As of June 15, the Chargers had the right to reduce the offer dramatically -- and so they did.

Since then, periodic accounts have emerged regarding the possibility that other teams would be interested in trading for Jackson. But no progress has been made.

Per Adam Schefter of ESPN, the Chargers aren't shopping Jackson, and they aren't interested in trading him.

So what is G.M. A.J. Smith trying to prove? He has declared both Jackson and tackle Marcus McNeill as players who have been "lost," but Smith still insists on squatting on their rights.

Does Smith not realize that, in the end, he's dealing with human beings -- and that a locker-room full of them will be watching this situation closely?

Smith, who once instructed that a photo of him be replaced in the team's media guide because it showed him smiling, has plenty of talent. Indeed, he has enough talent to overcome what looks to be a pretty serious personality defect, on that prompts him to treat his players like nameless, faceless pieces of property and to make no effort whatsoever to display basic interpersonal traits and emotions.

Maybe Smith has decided to keep his distance in order to avoid ever making dispassionate decisions based on anything other than the best football interests of the franchise. Maybe he's trying to avoid being perceived as soft.

Or maybe he's simply a big jerk.

Either way, his handling of Jackson makes no sense. The situation seems to be less about nudging the 2010 Chargers toward a championship (or at least winning a playoff game or two) and more about sending a message to Jackson and every other player regarding the power that NFL teams hold in the uncapped year.

And that could make it even harder for the 2010 Chargers to consistently sell those last couple of thousand tickets to their home games, unless the team plans to devote the money they won't be paying Jackson to buying the unsold seats at 34 cents on the dollar.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Chargers still playing hardball with Vincent Jackson

Twitter / Adam Schefter: League sources say Charger ...

Posted by Mike Florio on July 5, 2010 10:33 AM ET

The San Diego Chargers continue to put the screws to receiver Vincent Jackson.

The four-year veteran, who would have been an unrestricted free agent but for the disappearance of the salary cap, became a recipient of the highest possible restricted free agency tender. No one made a run at him during the RFA signing period, which isn't surprising given that only one player signed an offer sheet this year as a restricted free agent. With no long-term deal reached between the two sides (blame it on the uncertainty coming from the lack of a new CBA, or collusion), Jackson opted not to sign his tender offer.

As of June 15, the Chargers had the right to reduce the offer dramatically -- and so they did.

Since then, periodic accounts have emerged regarding the possibility that other teams would be interested in trading for Jackson. But no progress has been made.

Per Adam Schefter of ESPN, the Chargers aren't shopping Jackson, and they aren't interested in trading him.

So what is G.M. A.J. Smith trying to prove? He has declared both Jackson and tackle Marcus McNeill as players who have been "lost," but Smith still insists on squatting on their rights.

Does Smith not realize that, in the end, he's dealing with human beings -- and that a locker-room full of them will be watching this situation closely?

Smith, who once instructed that a photo of him be replaced in the team's media guide because it showed him smiling, has plenty of talent. Indeed, he has enough talent to overcome what looks to be a pretty serious personality defect, on that prompts him to treat his players like nameless, faceless pieces of property and to make no effort whatsoever to display basic interpersonal traits and emotions.

Maybe Smith has decided to keep his distance in order to avoid ever making dispassionate decisions based on anything other than the best football interests of the franchise. Maybe he's trying to avoid being perceived as soft.

Or maybe he's simply a big jerk.

Either way, his handling of Jackson makes no sense. The situation seems to be less about nudging the 2010 Chargers toward a championship (or at least winning a playoff game or two) and more about sending a message to Jackson and every other player regarding the power that NFL teams hold in the uncapped year.

And that could make it even harder for the 2010 Chargers to consistently sell those last couple of thousand tickets to their home games, unless the team plans to devote the money they won't be paying Jackson to buying the unsold seats at 34 cents on the dollar.

Just because the Chargers aren't shopping Jackson doesn't mean his agent isn't shopping him. There's a difference.