The New Generation???

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

That guy is a moron. If I'm his father he is getting kicked out...might even cut him from my will.

I can tell you don't have kids.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I can tell you don't have kids.

What can I say? I believe in the power of kicking out a bad seed before it ruins the soil. I'm sure the wife isn't going to have it. Oh and military school is always an option too.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I can tell you don't have kids.

If at 24 my son says to me, while living at home, "Dad I turned down a well paying job b/c I didn't think it was going anywhere". He and I would have very long talk about his rent-free status in my home. It is one thing to be supportive in hard times, it is another to encourage a sense of entitlement.

The company who offerred the guy the job had initially turned down his request for a management training position but thought enough of him to call him back in for the lesser opening. So take the job, work your ass off and reapply in a couple years for the managemnt training.

When opportunity knocks, answer the f'ing door.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

If at 24 my son says to me, while living at home, "Dad I turned down a well paying job b/c I didn't think it was going anywhere". He and I would have very long talk about his rent-free status in my home. It is one thing to be supportive in hard times, it is another to encourage a sense of entitlement.

The company who offerred the guy the job had initially turned down his request for a management training position but thought enough of him to call him back in for the lesser opening. So take the job, work your ass off and reapply in a couple years for the managemnt training.

When opportunity knocks, answer the f'ing door.

great line.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

If at 24 my son says to me, while living at home, "Dad I turned down a well paying job b/c I didn't think it was going anywhere". He and I would have very long talk about his rent-free status in my home. It is one thing to be supportive in hard times, it is another to encourage a sense of entitlement.

The company who offerred the guy the job had initially turned down his request for a management training position but thought enough of him to call him back in for the lesser opening. So take the job, work your ass off and reapply in a couple years for the managemnt training.

When opportunity knocks, answer the f'ing door.

Exactly. My parents have always said they'll help my brother and I if we help ourselves. There were times in the past during and right after college where I was hurting for money, but I was always willing to work my tail off doing whatever to make ends meet. They weren't bankrolling my entire life, but they certainly helped with bills/rent here and there- as long as I was working hard both in school and at a job.

My parents have money, but my Dad was raised dirt poor as the oldest of 7 kids, and paid his own way through college and law school, and wasn't ever given a penny after the age of 18 by his parents. If he ever caught any whiff of entitlement from my brother and I while growing up, he nipped it in the bud real fast.

The little shitburger in this article needs to get his head out of the clouds and learn what it means to WORK for a living.

[JoeRedskin]

^^ After turning down a 40K job, his parents are paying for 2K a month for his share of an apartment in Boston. Amazing.

I gotta believe this kid is not the norm.

[mredskins]

I had a kid in my last office get hired at an entry level position I say it was probably in the mid- 30 range, he had gone to graduate school right after college so he had no work experience.

He asked my boos every other month for raise, after he had done nothing to deserve it. Eventually my boss asked him to quit or stay but he would never promote him. The kid left two weeks later, we all laughed at his sense of entitlement that he had for himself.

He was so bad that if you made a mistake in my office you didn't f up you pulled a Josh.

Also if you were to Simpsonize him into a cartoon you would just have a drawing of Millhouse. They looked exactly a like.

[jdlea]

I don't know if he's a representative of my generation. I'm fresh out of college, I had a job lined up before my last semester (making considerably more than he did) and it seems like he and I probably had similar grades as well. I'm a little surprised that his job hunt is starting after graduation, that makes me think Colgate doesn't do a great job at career services...that, or the kid is lazy.

Please don't judge people my age on this guy, my wife and I both just graduated from college last may, we make a lot more than he was offered, pay down my (considerable) student loans, got married and we were able to purchase a home because we work hard. We're not all entitled.

I will say that I know a few people like him, but most of my friends are very successful and driven, not entitled.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I don't know if he's a representative of my generation. I'm fresh out of college, I had a job lined up before my last semester (making considerably more than he did) and it seems like he and I probably had similar grades as well. I'm a little surprised that his job hunt is starting after graduation, that makes me think Colgate doesn't do a great job at career services...that, or the kid is lazy.

Please don't judge people my age on this guy, my wife and I both just graduated from college last may, we make a lot more than he was offered, pay down my (considerable) student loans, got married and we were able to purchase a home because we work hard. We're not all entitled.

I will say that I know a few people like him, but most of my friends are very successful and driven, not entitled.

I think you're right, it's unfair to judge a full generation based on this. But to me, I wouldn't judge the kids anyway, I'd judge their parents.

Parents need to be mindful of instilling work ethic and appreciation in their kids. If you're going to give your kid a car for his 16th birthday, make sure he understands most of the parents in this nation can't do that. Make sure he understands that if he wants to live in a nice house like he grew up in, he needs to be as successful as his mother and father are/were. The second the kid under-appreciates those things, yank the rug from underneath them and give them a rude awakening.

[dmek25]

schneed ,your very full of your-self when it comes to parenting. remember what they say about the best laid plans...i really hope it all works out. i did the same things with my kids. for one it worked

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by dmek25

schneed ,your very full of your-self when it comes to parenting. remember what they say about the best laid plans...i really hope it all works out. i did the same things with my kids. for one it worked

I'm full of myself, period.

[DynamiteRave]

I'm 23, right out of college. I'm looking for a job that will last me from now through the time I finish my masters. (Which I'm starting next year)

At this point I will do ANYTHING. 40k... I would sell my soul for 40k. A full time job, for 40k annually sounds like a dream. I went through college and only have $2k of student loans so basically I have nothing I have to pay towards except moving out. I swear, kids my days aren't this dude. Most I know are dying to work anywhere with full time hours, a salary and a little benefits. Oh did I mention I'm uninsured too?

I've been searching for a job from before I ever put on that cap and gown (in May) till now. I've been on numerous interviews (At least 10+ since June) and nothing has materialized. A good friend of mine, graduated from MD, interned with the Redskins (as a journalist) for the past season. And couldn't get a job for over 4 months.

If you graduated last year, this year, or probably next year.. You're basically screwed.

But seriously. I am so desperate for a full-time job, I've thought about asking you guys where I should start. I'm willing to take anything that pays over 25k. Ideally, I'd like to start around 30k. Anything having to do with law or social work type things I'm down for.

I'm looked for government jobs but they want people with office/clerical experience, which I have none of. I only have 4 years of customer service experience. Damn... I guess I am screwed.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm 23, right out of college. I'm looking for a job that will last me from now through the time I finish my masters. (Which I'm starting next year)

At this point I will do ANYTHING. 40k... I would sell my soul for 40k. A full time job, for 40k annually sounds like a dream. I went through college and only have $2k of student loans so basically I have nothing I have to pay towards except moving out. I swear, kids my days aren't this dude. Most I know are dying to work anywhere with full time hours, a salary and a little benefits. Oh did I mention I'm uninsured too?

I've been searching for a job from before I ever put on that cap and gown (in May) till now. I've been on numerous interviews (At least 10+ since June) and nothing has materialized. A good friend of mine, graduated from MD, interned with the Redskins (as a journalist) for the past season. And couldn't get a job for over 4 months.

If you graduated last year, this year, or probably next year.. You're basically screwed.

But seriously. I am so desperate for a full-time job, I've thought about asking you guys where I should start. I'm willing to take anything that pays over 25k. Ideally, I'd like to start around 30k. Anything having to do with law or social work type things I'm down for.

I'm looked for government jobs but they want people with office/clerical experience, which I have none of. I only have 4 years of customer service experience. Damn... I guess I am screwed.

Ever go to Manpower?

Manpower Inc. – Employment services industry leader offering permanent, temporary, contract recruitment; employee assessment and selection; training; outplacement; outsourcing and consulting services.

They are temp jobs but the usually in the DC area theyend up being permanent jobs.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Ever go to Manpower?

Manpower Inc. – Employment services industry leader offering permanent, temporary, contract recruitment; employee assessment and selection; training; outplacement; outsourcing and consulting services.

They are temp jobs but the usually in the DC area theyend up being permanent jobs.

Man, I wish I knew about this site back when I was unemployed for 6 months. I've been working at a Mazda dealership as a car salesman for about a month now, and I was fortunate to get this job given my driving record. I don't understand that kid's line of thinking at all, and the fact that his parents are paying an extra 2k a month for his apartment is even more ridiculous. Not a single one of my friends are like that guy. 40k a year? I've never made more than 22k in a year, and granted I've taken the work now/put off college till later path, but gd. You can't be picky when so few opportunities are available.

[Daseal]

On the surface I think this kid is making a mistake, but there may be more to it than meets the eye. I had an interesting path to and through college. Out of high school I worked a job for about 10/hr, it was hot as hell, and sucked. While going there I was going to a local community college. Finally I went off to Mason full time. To making money during the summer/weekends I woke up at 2-3AM to deliver bread. It was hard and dirty work that basically ruined most of my weekends.

When I graduated college, I had one major criteria. I wanted to work during the day and have most weekends off. I turned down a job because it was working at night and got Tues/Thurs off. I ended up taking a day shift with the same schedule. Two months later I left for another job that had worse hours 1-10PM, less money, but more interesting work and security clearance. More importantly, weekends off.

Fact is, when you get your foot in the door and prove yourself as capable you can go a long way. In that first year I got 4 promotions. When my boss left to go to another company he brought me with him and in a little over a year my salary has almost doubled since when I started. It requires a combination of things to make a career work.

If he really feels there's no mobility or hates the company, I understand it. It's important not to hate your job or what you do -- if you can afford it. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet. I took whatever job I could find because I needed money, but if I had a little freedom, I probably would have kept looking. It wasn't that I thought I was too good for the job, I just knew it wasn't a good fit for me and there wasn't anywhere to go within the company.