Football Outsiders Picks Redskins to Make Postseason

[skinsfan69]

So this guy has us better than the Giants and Dallas???? Um I don't think so. Right now those teams are better than we are. End of discussion.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So this guy has us better than the Giants and Dallas???? Um I don't think so. Right now those teams are better than we are. End of discussion.

You know, you make a great point. Very well supported.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

You know, you make a great point. Very well supported.

What do want me to support it with? All I need to do is use common sense. Philly, NY, and Dallas all have a lot less question marks than we do. If I had to put money on it I'd say that we're still behind all those teams.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What do want me to support it with? All I need to do is use common sense. Philly, NY, and Dallas all have a lot less question marks than we do. If I had to put money on it I'd say that we're still behind all those teams.

Philly questionable line as far as pass pro and yet to be proven QB.. solid D

NY.. questionable D if it's like last year.. aka near bottom of the league.. probably the best line overall

Dallas... questionable O Line at least as far as pass pro.. good D

Us.. solid D, but changing.. QB improved.. not sure on line.. just a big question mark

anyone really can win the division but I don't think that it will be the Gnats.. I see us coming in 2nd or a VERY close 3rd

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What do want me to support it with? All I need to do is use common sense. Philly, NY, and Dallas all have a lot less question marks than we do. If I had to put money on it I'd say that we're still behind all those teams.

Well, using common sense would work just fine.

No one is putting us ahead of those teams, necessarily, and 9 wins probably isn't going to take the division. But, if we can reach that point, we'd most likely move ahead of somebody, and probably two teams.

I just don't know if the roster is good enough to reach first place in this division yet, which is the same boat that the Giants are in. They, like us, are hoping for rebound years from lots of underachieving veterans. Philly is doing the young thing, again, and according to the FO projections, that puts them on level footing with us, albeit with an arrow pointing up instead of down.

That leaves just Dallas as someone that should, in theory, still be way ahead of us. Their argument that Dallas is going to be the non contender in this division is far from persuasive, IMO, but Dallas builds their team just like we do: good success on first round draft picks and lots of money spent in free agency without much of an eye on player development. Records aside, we've more or less alternated being better and worse than the Cowboys since 2003, so it's not unreasonable for the roles to flip in 2010 and us to beat them twice again.

I think we're at a bunch of disadvantages in Week 1, of course. Dallas is likely to be a much better team that week than later on in the season. Of course, the same could be said about this team.

Anyway, it shouldn't be hard to believe that we're even with Philly and ahead of NYG in projections because neither of those teams has improved much since last year. The gap between us and Dallas was far greater, and so if they fall from first to last, it makes it a lot easier for us to contend for a division title.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, using common sense would work just fine.

No one is putting us ahead of those teams, necessarily, and 9 wins probably isn't going to take the division. But, if we can reach that point, we'd most likely move ahead of somebody, and probably two teams.

I just don't know if the roster is good enough to reach first place in this division yet, which is the same boat that the Giants are in. They, like us, are hoping for rebound years from lots of underachieving veterans. Philly is doing the young thing, again, and according to the FO projections, that puts them on level footing with us, albeit with an arrow pointing up instead of down.

That leaves just Dallas as someone that should, in theory, still be way ahead of us. Their argument that Dallas is going to be the non contender in this division is far from persuasive, IMO, but Dallas builds their team just like we do: good success on first round draft picks and lots of money spent in free agency without much of an eye on player development. Records aside, we've more or less alternated being better and worse than the Cowboys since 2003, so it's not unreasonable for the roles to flip in 2010 and us to beat them twice again.

I think we're at a bunch of disadvantages in Week 1, of course. Dallas is likely to be a much better team that week than later on in the season. Of course, the same could be said about this team.

Anyway, it shouldn't be hard to believe that we're even with Philly and ahead of NYG in projections because neither of those teams has improved much since last year. The gap between us and Dallas was far greater, and so if they fall from first to last, it makes it a lot easier for us to contend for a division title.

I think you could say we're even w/ Philly. That seems like a fair statement. But I'd still say NY and Dallas are ahead of us.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think you could say we're even w/ Philly. That seems like a fair statement. But I'd still say NY and Dallas are ahead of us.

Why?

If you're not going to substantiate your statements, why bother posting?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

You know, you make a great point. Very well supported.

LOL.....Look Dallas will win some games but in the end will choke ...Romo always does.As for the Giants ....Offensively QB ..Eli has gotten better and I think our young wide recievers are our best unit on O, the O line has gotten old fast but with healthy running backs which they did not have at all last year can be much better.
Defensively ......health is the question,if the Giants stay healthy on D...it's a very good unit .My own opinion is our biggest concern is MLBer will one of the rookies step up or will Goff play better with a healthy D line in front of him?Our DB's all took to many hits last year with the front 7 being decimated with the addition of Rolle at safety and a healthy front 7...the Giants can make some noise in the playoffs this year,if not Coughlin is gone and Bill Cowher will be the next coach of the NY Giants.

I try to stay away from predictions ...to many posibilties can change things...injuries and such but as of now this is how I see things shaping up.........

1) Giants...win divison
2)Skins...Wild card
3)Cowboys Wild card
4) Eagles

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So this guy has us better than the Giants and Dallas???? Um I don't think so. Right now those teams are better than we are. End of discussion.

As I understand it, Football Outsiders uses a fairly sophisticated mathematical formula for their predictions, it's not just some guy saying this is what I think. They have a pretty good track record in recent years too.

[RememberRFK]

The more the Redskins sign new players to one year deals, the more I'm ok with what they are doing. Keep it short and make 'em prove they are worth a long term deal. (gotta prove it first)