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Old 08-03-2010, 02:52 PM   #1
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)

basically.. better to get something for Dutch than just cutting him
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Old 08-04-2010, 01:05 PM   #2
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Appreciate the comments here, guys. Skins fans are definitely intelligent and thoughtful. It will be interesting to see what happens.
You could be right, 30gut, next year's QB draft will be pretty loaded.
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Old 08-04-2010, 01:37 PM   #3
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Appreciate the comments here, guys. Skins fans are definitely intelligent and thoughtful. It will be interesting to see what happens.
You could be right, 30gut, next year's QB draft will be pretty loaded.
Thanks for the great insight...I dont think we'd get better info elsewhere than a BYU fan
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Old 08-04-2010, 02:13 PM   #4
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Appreciate the comments here, guys. Skins fans are definitely intelligent and thoughtful. It will be interesting to see what happens.
You could be right, 30gut, next year's QB draft will be pretty loaded.
I don't know. Next years class looks to me like a bunch of physical specimens that can't complete 60% of their passes. And when you can't do that at the collegiate level then chances are you'll never do it at the pro level.

Last year had a great draft with two of the most accurate passers in college history with Bradford and McCoy. We'll see how everything shapes up but I'm not to excited about Mallet, Prior, and Locker. Luck won't be out next year as he wants to finish his Stanford education before going pro. Then again we'll probably never be in position to draft Luck.
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Old 08-04-2010, 02:18 PM   #5
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I don't know. Next years class looks to me like a bunch of physical specimens that can't complete 60% of their passes. And when you can't do that at the collegiate level then chances are you'll never do it at the pro level.

Last year had a great draft with two of the most accurate passers in college history with Bradford and McCoy. We'll see how everything shapes up but I'm not to excited about Mallet, Prior, and Locker. Luck won't be out next year as he wants to finish his Stanford education before going pro. Then again we'll probably never be in position to draft Luck.
Christian Ponder and Jacory Harris are both intriguing prospects, and Terrell Pryor might end up useful before it's all said and done, but yeah, Mallett and Locker haven't accomplished very much at the college level yet.

There's still time to turn it around -- or to reinforce the believe that they're not accurate passers.
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Christian Ponder and Jacory Harris are both intriguing prospects, and Terrell Pryor might end up useful before it's all said and done, but yeah, Mallett and Locker haven't accomplished very much at the college level yet.

There's still time to turn it around -- or to reinforce the believe that they're not accurate passers.
Interestingly, BYU plays both Locker (UW) and Ponder (FSU) this year. I'm excited to see those games.

You're right about Locker, from what I've seen. Hasn't done a whole lot, despite his hype going in.

From what I've seen of both of them, Ponder appears to be the more polished QB, though both of them are very physical, and can run.
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I don't know. Next years class looks to me like a bunch of physical specimens that can't complete 60% of their passes. And when you can't do that at the collegiate level then chances are you'll never do it at the pro level.

Last year had a great draft with two of the most accurate passers in college history with Bradford and McCoy. We'll see how everything shapes up but I'm not to excited about Mallet, Prior, and Locker. Luck won't be out next year as he wants to finish his Stanford education before going pro. Then again we'll probably never be in position to draft Luck.
What about Ponder out of FSU? He's a solid QB, given the right players around him.
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What about Ponder out of FSU? He's a solid QB, given the right players around him.
He REALLY impressed me against my Canes last year. He's going to be very good for a while I think.
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Appreciate the comments here, guys. Skins fans are definitely intelligent and thoughtful. It will be interesting to see what happens.
You could be right, 30gut, next year's QB draft will be pretty loaded.
BYUClark, care to start a Beck Bandwagon? The recently disbanded Cult of Colt left a void in Redskins land..

I hope Beck develops into a nice #2 for us. I was in Miami his rookie year and that was such an awful team around him there was no way he'd succeed. I wish he was 3 years younger but I guess it doesn't really matter. I like his pedigree and his promise coming out of college so hopefully he grows under Kyle and Mike.
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BYUClark, care to start a Beck Bandwagon? The recently disbanded Cult of Colt left a void in Redskins land..

I hope Beck develops into a nice #2 for us. I was in Miami his rookie year and that was such an awful team around him there was no way he'd succeed. I wish he was 3 years younger but I guess it doesn't really matter. I like his pedigree and his promise coming out of college so hopefully he grows under Kyle and Mike.
HAHA. I've always been on the Beck Bandwagon. I've followed him everywhere he went (even met him at BYU while he was training for the combine). He's a great character guy, an under-rated talent, and I've always wished for the RIGHT place for him.

Yeah, he's older, which a mission will do (averaging in a +2 difference), but that brings a certain maturity as well.

I just read an article where his dad was interviewed. Usually they talk almost every day, but he hasn't heard from John since he got to DC. There's no doubt that John takes this very seriously, and aims to give everything he has to the Skins. He's going to study like crazy (something his very high football-IQ will aid him in), and get started.

I'd be worried what exactly the Beck Bandwagon ring-leader would mean here. heh. I've always had a healthy respect for the Redskins, and a number of other teams. I've never been so much of a fan of any specific team (being raised in Oregon where there is no Professional football team to speak of). But I am a tremendous fan of the game, and have been forever (including playing as a youth for 7 years).

First, I just want to see what Beck does here. Can he jump to the #2 spot? Based on what I'm hearing (limited as it is), he very well could. Once his head stops spinning from the transition to the Skins, he'll settle down and take care of business.

I appreciate the welcome here, even as a non-long-time-historical Skins fan.

But as a lover of the game, thanks!
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:33 PM   #11
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)

I'm going to go ahead and call it right now -

McNabb and Haynesworth (whom we'll force into the deal) to the Vikings for Percy Harvin and their 2011 1st rounder.
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I'm going to go ahead and call it right now -

McNabb and Haynesworth (whom we'll force into the deal) to the Vikings for Percy Harvin and their 2011 1st rounder.
I think they're going to make us throw in Byron Westbrook, who will have earned the franchise tag by then.
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Old 08-05-2010, 01:22 PM   #13
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McNabb and Haynesworth (whom we'll force into the deal) to the Vikings for Percy Harvin and their 2011 1st rounder.
Huh?
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)

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I'm going to go ahead and call it right now -

McNabb and Haynesworth (whom we'll force into the deal) to the Vikings for Percy Harvin and their 2011 1st rounder.
We're going to need that 1st rounder, in order to send it to the Titans for Chris Simms (is he with the Titans? I've lost track)
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We're going to need that 1st rounder, in order to send it to the Titans for Chris Simms (is he with the Titans? I've lost track)
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