Brett Favre Reportedly hasn't decided to retire (AGAIN)

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

^ DM has 3-4 more pro bowl type years left. Let's sign him to a 5 yr deal

Please keep dreaming.

McNabb is 34 in November, and now that his career in Philadelphia is over, he's year to year as an NFL player. If he continues to have good years, he'll keep coming back, but he's not looking to play out four plus seasons in Washington. Let's be real here. McNabb's future in Washington is 2010, and if things go well, he will be open to an extension.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Please keep dreaming.

McNabb is 34 in November, and now that his career in Philadelphia is over, he's year to year as an NFL player. If he continues to have good years, he'll keep coming back, but he's not looking to play out four plus seasons in Washington. Let's be real here. McNabb's future in Washington is 2010, and if things go well, he will be open to an extension.

I'd say he's got 3-4 years left easily. He's a QB, not a RB and QB's can play at a high level well until their late 30's. The guy trains hard and keep himself in tip top shape. 34 isn't what it was 30 years ago.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'd say he's got 3-4 years left easily. He's a QB, not a RB and QB's can play at a high level well until their late 30's. The guy trains hard and keep himself in tip top shape. 34 isn't what it was 30 years ago.

There's evidence of players playing that long, of course, but those players were year to year as well. Look at Boomer Esiason, Steve McNair, or Troy Aikman. Each one of those players had a pretty good career, one comparable to McNabb. Not one of those players signed a major extension for future value close to their 34th birthday.

Year-to-year doesn't mean retirement is imminent, but if McNabb is unwanted as a starting QB at age 36, is he the kind of guy who is interested in sticking around as a backup just to make it to age 40? I'm not sure he's interested in extending his career the way Favre has.

Now, I believe if we do so well this year that we start to produce grandiose visions of winning a super bowl under Shanahan, I think McNabb will re-up for that and try to help us win in 2011 and 2012. And in the perfect situation, I think he can. But I do think he's more of a hired gun at this point than a Redskin 4 lyfe. And that's why I think year-to-year is an apt description of where he is in his career.

It seems like an act in insanity to suggest that McNabb is going to be a productive Redskins quarterback in 2013 playing up to his massive contract, but there are people who believe this is going to be the case.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

There's evidence of players playing that long, of course, but those players were year to year as well. Look at Boomer Esiason, Steve McNair, or Troy Aikman. Each one of those players had a pretty good career, one comparable to McNabb. Not one of those players signed a major extension for future value close to their 34th birthday.

Year-to-year doesn't mean retirement is imminent, but if McNabb is unwanted as a starting QB at age 36, is he the kind of guy who is interested in sticking around as a backup just to make it to age 40? I'm not sure he's interested in extending his career the way Favre has.

Now, I believe if we do so well this year that we start to produce grandiose visions of winning a super bowl under Shanahan, I think McNabb will re-up for that and try to help us win in 2011 and 2012. And in the perfect situation, I think he can. But I do think he's more of a hired gun at this point than a Redskin 4 lyfe. And that's why I think year-to-year is an apt description of where he is in his career.

It seems like an act in insanity to suggest that McNabb is going to be a productive Redskins quarterback in 2013 playing up to his massive contract, but there are people who believe this is going to be the case.

I don't know I'd use Esiason, McNair and Aikman as comparisons. Esiason was well into journeyman status by 34, McNair's injury history was more extensive than McNabb and Aikman was chronically suffering from concussions at the same age as McNabb is now. While D-Mac hasn't always been the picture of health he's healthier than 2 examples and simply better than the third.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I don't know I'd use Esiason, McNair and Aikman as comparisons. Esiason was well into journeyman status by 34, McNair's injury history was more extensive than McNabb and Aikman was chronically suffering from concussions at the same age as McNabb is now. While D-Mac hasn't always been the picture of health he's healthier than 2 examples and simply better than the third.

Point taken on the injury histories of Aikman and McNair (though that's a reason I think they are similar, it's clearly not the same thing), but on Esiason, I'd think you'd have to consider McNabb a journeyman starting this year. I don't think his career is going to finish in Washington unless it ends up being truncated like McNair's (rip) and Aikman's were.

But yeah: Bradshaw, Brunell, Bledsoe, Jim Kelly, Ken Stabler (I'm just reading off his PFR page now). None of these guys lasted into their late thirties. Brunell was still effective until 36, at least, but without a vertical component in the Redskins offense.

The Elway comparison is the best for a successful McNabb tenure here, as he was 35 when Mike Shanahan came in with his system and played three more years at a high level. And the Elway comparison isn't lost on me. Their career's haven't been that similar to this point, but if we get a top-level rushing attack going, all things are possible.

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[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'd say he's got 3-4 years left easily. He's a QB, not a RB and QB's can play at a high level well until their late 30's. The guy trains hard and keep himself in tip top shape. 34 isn't what it was 30 years ago.

I agree. 3-4 years is reasonable enough for a guy that keeps himself in top shape. Shanahan is going to protect him with a running game too. The days of throwing 70% of the time are over for him.