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[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Haven't we reached the point where homosexuality is a norm?

Or do you still believe it's a choice you can be cured from?

I didn't make them. It's not my part to figure out why they're effed up. I am of the opinion that many of them were sexually abused as children, some of it's a choice, and some were born sexually retarded. I don't know? You'll have to ask God.

No, you have reached the point to where you think two perverts sodomozing each other is normal. They don't call themselves queer (AKA strange) because they think they're normal. Why should I? If you can look at Dennis Rodman and think he's normal then well, I guess we've crossed over into the Twilight Zone.

We in Virginia have made it law that we will not recognize another state's marriage licenses for two perverts. If you don't like it, don't move here.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I didn't make them. It's not my part to figure out why they're effed up. I am of the opinion that many of them were sexually abused as children, some of it's a choice, and some were born sexually retarded. I don't know? You'll have to ask God.

No, you have reached the point to where you think two perverts sodomozing each other is normal. They don't call themselves queer (AKA strange) because they think they're normal. Why should I? If you can look at Dennis Rodman and think he's normal then well, I guess we've crossed over into the Twilight Zone.

We in Virginia have made it law that we will not recognize another state's marriage licenses for two perverts. If you don't like it, don't move here.

Here Here. This whole PC wave sweeping the nation is getting out of control. So, because two gay guys want cheaper auto insurance and tax breaks, we should legally recognize them as a married couple? Sorry, No way. Marriage is and should be between a man and a woman. Nature says it works that way, and almost every religion says it is blasphemy. So we should cater to them because they are different? Sorry, No way. Lead your life the way you want, but when it comes to the general public recognizing your homo love and okaying it essencially, that is where the buck should stop. Its almost as sick as letting gays in the military............

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Here Here. This whole PC wave sweeping the nation is getting out of control. So, because two gay guys want cheaper auto insurance and tax breaks, we should legally recognize them as a married couple? Sorry, No way. Marriage is and should be between a man and a woman. Nature says it works that way, and almost every religion says it is blasphemy. So we should cater to them because they are different? Sorry, No way. Lead your life the way you want, but when it comes to the general public recognizing your homo love and okaying it essencially, that is where the buck should stop. Its almost as sick as letting gays in the military............

A few questions then, by "nature says it works that way" does that mean that you believe that the purpose of marriage is to produce children? What about heterosexual couples that can't conceive? Should their marriage be annulled? Or would you let it stand just because it doesn't seem threatening to you?

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by jdlea

A few questions then, by "nature says it works that way" does that mean that you believe that the purpose of marriage is to produce children? What about heterosexual couples that can't conceive? Should their marriage be annulled? Or would you let it stand just because it doesn't seem threatening to you?

Now you are picking fly shit out of pepper. And no, Im not threatened by it. But I am also not going to sit by, paying my tax dollars and having the government say that Frank and Bill have the same rights as a heterosexual couple, because we don't want to step on their toes.

You know exactly what it means, and you also know that I am right, in the sense that we were made for it to work that way. And yes, producing children is one of the most important things couples do. Procreation is a very important part of human society and marriage. And quit with the liberal spin absurd bullshit, "if a man has a vasectomy or a woman has ovarian cancer, she shouldnt be afforded the same rights as other married couples because she cannot procreate."

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Now you are picking fly shit out of pepper. And no, Im not threatened by it. But I am also not going to sit by, paying my tax dollars and having the government say that Frank and Bill have the same rights as a heterosexual couple, because we don't want to step on their toes.

You know exactly what it means, and you also know that I am right, in the sense that we were made for it to work that way. And yes, producing children is one of the most important things couples do. Procreation is a very important part of human society and marriage. And quit with the liberal spin absurd bullshit, "if a man has a vasectomy or a woman has ovarian cancer, she shouldnt be afforded the same rights as other married couples because she cannot procreate."

First of all, I don't "know" you're right, I think you're dead wrong. Not wanting to step on homosexuals toes? That's the best you can do? That's absurd, I'm of the opinion that everyone should have equal rights and that 100% means extending marriage rights to homosexuals.

I don't believe that you're right because non-humans engage in homosexual acts all the time. Also, I don't believe that humans were "made," so we can skip that convo. Finally, there are tons of reasons that couples may not be able to procreate, it doesn't have to be something devastating like cancer.

I'd love for you to explain to me how that's "liberal spin absurd bullshit." Really, enlighten me. It seemed that you were heading down the path of, "marriage is for procreation" so I wanted to cut you off instead of trying to trap you in that one. Also, I like how your quote seems to project my removal of marital rights, when you're the one who's guilty of that.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by jdlea

First of all, I don't "know" you're right, I think you're dead wrong. Not wanting to step on homosexuals toes? That's the best you can do? That's absurd, I'm of the opinion that everyone should have equal rights and that 100% means extending marriage rights to homosexuals.

I don't believe that you're right because non-humans engage in homosexual acts all the time. Also, I don't believe that humans were "made," so we can skip that convo. Finally, there are tons of reasons that couples may not be able to procreate, it doesn't have to be something devastating like cancer.

I'd love for you to explain to me how that's "liberal spin absurd bullshit." Really, enlighten me. It seemed that you were heading down the path of, "marriage is for procreation" so I wanted to cut you off instead of trying to trap you in that one. Also, I like how your quote seems to project my removal of marital rights, when you're the one who's guilty of that.

Just a question. Do you think its just a coincidence that homosexuals have 5 times the chance of contracting an STD than a heterosexual? Or do you think that its just a coincidence that the life expectancy of a homosexual individual is almost 20 years SHORTER than that of a heterosexual person? How about, it must be a coincidence that homosexuals have 4 times the chance of being medically diagnosed with a mental disorder than heterosexuals? It must all be Rush Limbaughs fault, right? We conservatives just put too much pressure and spew too much hate for the homosexual to take, right?

I dont know about you, but with those statistics, homosexuality is definitely not a lifestyle that the stats say would enable you to live a long and healthy life, and its not one that I would choose for the ones I love, like my children. And I definitely wouldn't want the government condoning such a self destructive lifestyle like homosexuality by okaying it in the court systems because gays like to twist around our constitution to say it protects them, but in the same breath, say that government should have no say on what constitutes a marriage. I also find it interesting that the suicide rate among homosexuals is staggering when compared to the suicide rate of heterosexuals. Again, its all Fox News' fault, right? Not a lifestyle I would want for anyone............

[Trample the Elderly]

This isn't about rights. It's about perverts trying to force their twisted way of life down everyone's throat. You think that they'll stop there. HA!

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[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Just a question. Do you think its just a coincidence that homosexuals have 5 times the chance of contracting an STD than a heterosexual? Or do you think that its just a coincidence that the life expectancy of a homosexual individual is almost 20 years SHORTER than that of a heterosexual person? How about, it must be a coincidence that homosexuals have 4 times the chance of being medically diagnosed with a mental disorder than heterosexuals? It must all be Rush Limbaughs fault, right? We conservatives just put too much pressure and spew too much hate for the homosexual to take, right?

I dont know about you, but with those statistics, homosexuality is definitely not a lifestyle that the stats say would enable you to live a long and healthy life, and its not one that I would choose for the ones I love, like my children. And I definitely wouldn't want the government condoning such a self destructive lifestyle like homosexuality by okaying it in the court systems because gays like to twist around our constitution to say it protects them, but in the same breath, say that government should have no say on what constitutes a marriage. I also find it interesting that the suicide rate among homosexuals is staggering when compared to the suicide rate of heterosexuals. Again, its all Fox News' fault, right? Not a lifestyle I would want for anyone............

WOW...you make some impressive leaps in logic. Really, that seems like some sort of talent.

Okay, first off, I'd love to see some type of statistics which validate everything you just said. Particularly when I've heard some evidence to the contrary, particularly regarding lesbians.

I don't care what lifestyle people choose to live, that's where we differ, my friend. Like I said before, I believe in equal rights, not only rights for the people I support.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Just a question. Do you think its just a coincidence that homosexuals have 5 times the chance of contracting an STD than a heterosexual? Or do you think that its just a coincidence that the life expectancy of a homosexual individual is almost 20 years SHORTER than that of a heterosexual person? How about, it must be a coincidence that homosexuals have 4 times the chance of being medically diagnosed with a mental disorder than heterosexuals? It must all be Rush Limbaughs fault, right? We conservatives just put too much pressure and spew too much hate for the homosexual to take, right?

I dont know about you, but with those statistics, homosexuality is definitely not a lifestyle that the stats say would enable you to live a long and healthy life, and its not one that I would choose for the ones I love, like my children. And I definitely wouldn't want the government condoning such a self destructive lifestyle like homosexuality by okaying it in the court systems because gays like to twist around our constitution to say it protects them, but in the same breath, say that government should have no say on what constitutes a marriage. I also find it interesting that the suicide rate among homosexuals is staggering when compared to the suicide rate of heterosexuals. Again, its all Fox News' fault, right? Not a lifestyle I would want for anyone............

Well, you don't get to choose the lifestyle for everyone else. That kind of attitude disgusts me.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Here Here. This whole PC wave sweeping the nation is getting out of control. So, because two gay guys want cheaper auto insurance and tax breaks, we should legally recognize them as a married couple? Sorry, No way. Marriage is and should be between a man and a woman. Nature says it works that way, and almost every religion says it is blasphemy. So we should cater to them because they are different? Sorry, No way. Lead your life the way you want, but when it comes to the general public recognizing your homo love and okaying it essencially, that is where the buck should stop. Its almost as sick as letting gays in the military............

wow.. leave the farm much? marriage has been around a lot longer than insurance (and its breaks).. so do believe that two gay people who think that they're in love are just fooling themselves? if being gay is a choice so is being straight.. meaning you could be gay too, you just choose to like women, better go wash it off real quick..

homosexuality has been around longer than the new testament and what does religion really have to do with it? religion is personal and so is marriage.. lets impose religion on people too.. or is THAT too commie?

do you feel that every couple MUST procreate? do you mind if a heterosexual couple doesn't bear children?

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I didn't make them. It's not my part to figure out why they're effed up. I am of the opinion that many of them were sexually abused as children, some of it's a choice, and some were born sexually retarded. I don't know? You'll have to ask God.

No, you have reached the point to where you think two perverts sodomozing each other is normal. They don't call themselves queer (AKA strange) because they think they're normal. Why should I? If you can look at Dennis Rodman and think he's normal then well, I guess we've crossed over into the Twilight Zone.

We in Virginia have made it law that we will not recognize another state's marriage licenses for two perverts. If you don't like it, don't move here.

First of all, it's clear you hate homosexuals, and that makes you a big jerk. They're people just like the rest of us. I take offense to you saying my gay friends are effed up, or sexually retarded. You don't know them, so **** off with that shit.

Second, let's see if you can understand this example:

If you cut too many leaves off a female plant, you can cause a hormone imbalance, which will lead to a gender change. This is a plant. Does it make sense to you that a hormone imbalance could cause homosexual behavior in humans? Could a hormone imbalance appear after birth? Maybe as a result of our heavily processed diet or poor air quality or some other unknown agent? Think about it.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

First of all, it's clear you hate homosexuals, and that makes you a big jerk. They're people just like the rest of us. I take offense to you saying my gay friends are effed up, or sexually retarded. You don't know them, so **** off with that shit.

Second, let's see if you can understand this example:

If you cut too many leaves off a female plant, you can cause a hormone imbalance, which will lead to a gender change. This is a plant. Does it make sense to you that a hormone imbalance could cause homosexual behavior in humans? Could a hormone imbalance appear after birth? Maybe as a result of our heavily processed diet or poor air quality or some other unknown agent? Think about it.

So what if I don't like perverts? I could care less if you and your pervert buddies are offended. I don't care to know you or them, nor do I need a bunch of perverts around me, my friends, or our children. So **** you too.

[Trample the Elderly]

Let me ask a question. Are there homosexuals in the Omish community? I don't see the Omish men wearing dresses and holding hands with each other. I don't see the Omish starting any wars either. I think we could learn a lot from their example.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Let me ask a question. Are there homosexuals in the Omish community? I don't see the Omish men wearing dresses and holding hands with each other. I don't see the Omish starting any wars either. I think we could learn a lot from their example.

Are you channeling your inner Ahmadinejad?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

Are you channeling your inner Ahmadinejad?

The Persians never did anything to me, nor has Ahk-Ma-dingle-Jihad. If you want to go off and die for nothing, be my guest.