Steve Young's family up against Mormon church on Prop. 8

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by jdlea

First of all, I don't "know" you're right, I think you're dead wrong. Not wanting to step on homosexuals toes? That's the best you can do? That's absurd, I'm of the opinion that everyone should have equal rights and that 100% means extending marriage rights to homosexuals.

I don't believe that you're right because non-humans engage in homosexual acts all the time. Also, I don't believe that humans were "made," so we can skip that convo. Finally, there are tons of reasons that couples may not be able to procreate, it doesn't have to be something devastating like cancer.

I'd love for you to explain to me how that's "liberal spin absurd bullshit." Really, enlighten me. It seemed that you were heading down the path of, "marriage is for procreation" so I wanted to cut you off instead of trying to trap you in that one. Also, I like how your quote seems to project my removal of marital rights, when you're the one who's guilty of that.

Just a question. Do you think its just a coincidence that homosexuals have 5 times the chance of contracting an STD than a heterosexual? Or do you think that its just a coincidence that the life expectancy of a homosexual individual is almost 20 years SHORTER than that of a heterosexual person? How about, it must be a coincidence that homosexuals have 4 times the chance of being medically diagnosed with a mental disorder than heterosexuals? It must all be Rush Limbaughs fault, right? We conservatives just put too much pressure and spew too much hate for the homosexual to take, right?

I dont know about you, but with those statistics, homosexuality is definitely not a lifestyle that the stats say would enable you to live a long and healthy life, and its not one that I would choose for the ones I love, like my children. And I definitely wouldn't want the government condoning such a self destructive lifestyle like homosexuality by okaying it in the court systems because gays like to twist around our constitution to say it protects them, but in the same breath, say that government should have no say on what constitutes a marriage. I also find it interesting that the suicide rate among homosexuals is staggering when compared to the suicide rate of heterosexuals. Again, its all Fox News' fault, right? Not a lifestyle I would want for anyone............

[Trample the Elderly]

This isn't about rights. It's about perverts trying to force their twisted way of life down everyone's throat. You think that they'll stop there. HA!

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[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Just a question. Do you think its just a coincidence that homosexuals have 5 times the chance of contracting an STD than a heterosexual? Or do you think that its just a coincidence that the life expectancy of a homosexual individual is almost 20 years SHORTER than that of a heterosexual person? How about, it must be a coincidence that homosexuals have 4 times the chance of being medically diagnosed with a mental disorder than heterosexuals? It must all be Rush Limbaughs fault, right? We conservatives just put too much pressure and spew too much hate for the homosexual to take, right?

I dont know about you, but with those statistics, homosexuality is definitely not a lifestyle that the stats say would enable you to live a long and healthy life, and its not one that I would choose for the ones I love, like my children. And I definitely wouldn't want the government condoning such a self destructive lifestyle like homosexuality by okaying it in the court systems because gays like to twist around our constitution to say it protects them, but in the same breath, say that government should have no say on what constitutes a marriage. I also find it interesting that the suicide rate among homosexuals is staggering when compared to the suicide rate of heterosexuals. Again, its all Fox News' fault, right? Not a lifestyle I would want for anyone............

WOW...you make some impressive leaps in logic. Really, that seems like some sort of talent.

Okay, first off, I'd love to see some type of statistics which validate everything you just said. Particularly when I've heard some evidence to the contrary, particularly regarding lesbians.

I don't care what lifestyle people choose to live, that's where we differ, my friend. Like I said before, I believe in equal rights, not only rights for the people I support.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by jdlea

WOW...you make some impressive leaps in logic. Really, that seems like some sort of talent.

Okay, first off, I'd love to see some type of statistics which validate everything you just said. Particularly when I've heard some evidence to the contrary, particularly regarding lesbians.

I don't care what lifestyle people choose to live, that's where we differ, my friend. Like I said before, I believe in equal rights, not only rights for the people I support.

Here u are.

It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10).


Close-up of one of the New York "Gay Parades"

Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population.
Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).
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37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8).
41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8).
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The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8).
The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8).
Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8).
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There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.
Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19).
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Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro", one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to "cruisy areas" and have anonymous sex.
78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20).

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Here u are.

It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10).


Close-up of one of the New York "Gay Parades"

Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population.
Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).
---------------------------
37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8).
41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8).
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The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8).
The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8).
Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8).
----------------------------
There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.
Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19).
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Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro", one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to "cruisy areas" and have anonymous sex.
78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20).

Aren't these numbers a bit skewed by the fact that homesexuals, as you say, make up about 2% of the population?

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Aren't these numbers a bit skewed by the fact that homesexuals, as you say, make up about 2% of the population?

SmootSmack, they are not skewed.(And what is up with the blaming the suicides of homosexuals on the public who disagree with their orientation? Pass the buck much? Pretty Lame. They made their bed, lay in it.) The point is that even tho they only make up that % of the population, they are still responsible for over 53% of the HIV/AIDS infections and over 1/3 of the child molestation charges in the country.

And where is all these comments coming from that I dont like them ogling me? Never said I had a problem with that, they can do what they want. But just dont expect my tax dollars to go to your healthcare when your sexual orientation had everything to do with you contracting several diseases, some of which are debilitating and very costly to treat. I've treated plenty of people with HIV/AID in nursing homes, most of the in their 40's, early 50's, all of them gay. That is not just a coincidence.

And I didn't even notice that the life expectancy of a homsexual is 20 years shorter than that of a heterosexual. Fairly suprising fact..........didn't expect it to be that drastic. But when over 75% of homosexuals say they have over 150+ sexual partners in their lifetime, well, it just seems like with all this information out there, they are asking for it. I feel not one bit of sorrow for any homosexual who contracts these diseases. They did bring it on themselves. Sorry, but the truth hurts.

And yes, it is getting ugly. These statistics are very ugly. But they are accurate, and that is sad.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

SmootSmack, they are not skewed.(And what is up with the blaming the suicides of homosexuals on the public who disagree with their orientation? Pass the buck much? Pretty Lame. They made their bed, lay in it.) The point is that even tho they only make up that % of the population, they are still responsible for over 53% of the HIV/AIDS infections and over 1/3 of the child molestation charges in the country.

Not blaming the public, just saying they don't make it any easier. As for them making the bed. Did they make it or was it made for them, as dmek pointed out.

And where is all these comments coming from that I dont like them ogling me? Never said I had a problem with that, they can do what they want. But just dont expect my tax dollars to go to your healthcare when your sexual orientation had everything to do with you contracting several diseases, some of which are debilitating and very costly to treat. I've treated plenty of people with HIV/AID in nursing homes, most of the in their 40's, early 50's, all of them gay. That is not just a coincidence.

I never referred to you, so don't give yourself so much credit

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not blaming the public, just saying they don't make it any easier. As for them making the bed. Did they make it or was it made for them, as dmek pointed out. <---- Again, passing the buck and deflecting responsibility. Noone forces you to have hundreds of gay sex partners and orgies. Noone forces you to live a life that is totally free of responsibility of and full of false entitlement. Drugs, underage sex, STD's, suicide and mental illness......sorry, all PAR for the course for homosexuals. Its a self destructive lifestyle that my government should not and hopefully WILL NOT accept and okay.



I never referred to you, so don't give yourself so much credit

Oh, well, Im just gonna have to apologize for that one. So much for my skewed views of self importance and delusions of grandeur when referring to your comments about oogling gays.Trust me, I'll gladly pass along that credit.
Would you like it?

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Just a question. Do you think its just a coincidence that homosexuals have 5 times the chance of contracting an STD than a heterosexual? Or do you think that its just a coincidence that the life expectancy of a homosexual individual is almost 20 years SHORTER than that of a heterosexual person? How about, it must be a coincidence that homosexuals have 4 times the chance of being medically diagnosed with a mental disorder than heterosexuals? It must all be Rush Limbaughs fault, right? We conservatives just put too much pressure and spew too much hate for the homosexual to take, right?

I dont know about you, but with those statistics, homosexuality is definitely not a lifestyle that the stats say would enable you to live a long and healthy life, and its not one that I would choose for the ones I love, like my children. And I definitely wouldn't want the government condoning such a self destructive lifestyle like homosexuality by okaying it in the court systems because gays like to twist around our constitution to say it protects them, but in the same breath, say that government should have no say on what constitutes a marriage. I also find it interesting that the suicide rate among homosexuals is staggering when compared to the suicide rate of heterosexuals. Again, its all Fox News' fault, right? Not a lifestyle I would want for anyone............

Well, you don't get to choose the lifestyle for everyone else. That kind of attitude disgusts me.