Franz Gone

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I guess this offseason has been a huge success for you Matty? It's been an F from every aspect. Retaining defense and making slight changes to the offense was all we needed! Franz isn't exactly the straw that broke the camel's back though.

I can see both sides of the argument that this offseason has been good or bad. When taken as one offseason it would appear that we lost more talent than we gained. But when taken in context of past offseasons it has been a major departure. We haven't won squat in years so I think they deserve the chance to try something different. I would give this off season an A based simply on that. All the other offseasons clearly ended up being Fs because they didn't amount to diddly poo.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I guess this offseason has been a huge success for you Matty? It's been an F from every aspect. Retaining defense and making slight changes to the offense was all we needed! Franz isn't exactly the straw that broke the camel's back though.

So it's been a huge failure then??

We've lost talented players before, Bailey last year for example, and the team plugged someone else in and moved on.

The sky isn't falling because we're taking a different approach.

Last season we seemd to have a different defensive lineup every week, and they never missed a beat. So will the defense fall apart without Pierce and Smoot?? I highly doubt it.

Losing players, especially fan favorites like Smoot isn't fun, but if you step back and take the emotion out of it, I think you'll see losing Smoot isn't going to break the team. And it certainly isn't making the offseason a complete disaster in my opinion.

[BrudLee]

Because of all the injuries last year, we ended up about 4 deep at the safety positions. We have Taylor, Bowen, Clark, Lott, Doering, and Wilson on the roster right now. Franz is nice, but I think we'll survive.

[Yellow31]

I will never get the Dallas game he was warming up in the endzone pregame and a fan hollered at him "HEY DENNIS", even he laughed at the fan...

[Daseal]

The other offseasons got us key players like Washington, Griffen, Springs, Thomas, Portis, etc. Which were great pickups. I don't feel we should have crazy spending sprees every year, but retaining our guys should be key!

[Schneed10]

Losing key players is not necessarily a driver of wins and losses, see the Pittsburgh Steelers. They lose players every single year, and yet they went to the AFC Championship this year.

Signing big-name guys is not necessarily a driver of wins and losses. We know that pretty well, look at 2000. Deion, Jeff George, Mark Carrier, Bruce Smith, and we were mediocre!

The driver for wins and losses is coaching and teaching in today's NFL. You have so much player turnover these days that whoever can most effectively get their players on the same page is a step or two ahead. That takes a great coach, and you need stability in the coaching staff in order to get players on the same page, look at Belichick, Reid, and Cowher, all been with their teams for several years now. I think we've got the coaches, they're proven. Now we just need some time.

It also helps to be able to draft talent and otherwise unearth it cheaply. It remains to be seen how effective we'll be in that department.

I think the Skins will be better this year regardless of which players were brought in and which left. They'll be better because they're in Gibbs' second year, they have the same D coordinator as last year, and Ramsey has a year of experience in Gibbs' offense.

[rickmmrr]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Losing key players is not necessarily a driver of wins and losses, see the Pittsburgh Steelers. They lose players every single year, and yet they went to the AFC Championship this year.

Signing big-name guys is not necessarily a driver of wins and losses. We know that pretty well, look at 2000. Deion, Jeff George, Mark Carrier, Bruce Smith, and we were mediocre!

The driver for wins and losses is coaching and teaching in today's NFL. You have so much player turnover these days that whoever can most effectively get their players on the same page is a step or two ahead. That takes a great coach, and you need stability in the coaching staff in order to get players on the same page, look at Belichick, Reid, and Cowher, all been with their teams for several years now. I think we've got the coaches, they're proven. Now we just need some time.

It also helps to be able to draft talent and otherwise unearth it cheaply. It remains to be seen how effective we'll be in that department.

I think the Skins will be better this year regardless of which players were brought in and which left. They'll be better because they're in Gibbs' second year, they have the same D coordinator as last year, and Ramsey has a year of experience in Gibbs' offense.

Well said. Couldn't agree more.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Losing key players is not necessarily a driver of wins and losses, see the Pittsburgh Steelers. They lose players every single year, and yet they went to the AFC Championship this year.

Signing big-name guys is not necessarily a driver of wins and losses. We know that pretty well, look at 2000. Deion, Jeff George, Mark Carrier, Bruce Smith, and we were mediocre!

The driver for wins and losses is coaching and teaching in today's NFL. You have so much player turnover these days that whoever can most effectively get their players on the same page is a step or two ahead. That takes a great coach, and you need stability in the coaching staff in order to get players on the same page, look at Belichick, Reid, and Cowher, all been with their teams for several years now. I think we've got the coaches, they're proven. Now we just need some time.

It also helps to be able to draft talent and otherwise unearth it cheaply. It remains to be seen how effective we'll be in that department.

I think the Skins will be better this year regardless of which players were brought in and which left. They'll be better because they're in Gibbs' second year, they have the same D coordinator as last year, and Ramsey has a year of experience in Gibbs' offense.

Well said.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yeah, I forgot about Lott. I'd much rather see him in his natural positon at safety, rather than trying to work him into a CB position.

[joethiesmanfan]

at first i was upset but now i feel pretty good about it all. we will be okay you gonna lose some and win some in free agency but i dont think we should do like we have in the past and break the bank. still wish we could unload brunnell though but hey one more year he better not touch the field.

[BossHog]

You guys get all caught up in 'names'. Franz is better than Prioleau is now.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I bet Todd would feel great that we have almost 3 pages of posts about him of all people...

[EEich]

Pierson Prioleau was signed.

[maxknee]

well lets hope that our weakness isnt exposed with prioleau if bowen or taylor gets injured. what we really need is a strong young cornerback

[TheMalcolmConnection]

The guy IS a strong young DB. He's going to provide even MORE depth as well as a welcome back to come in and give Harris a break.