Matt Leinart Benched for Cards' Game vs. Bears

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I think I just still hate McNabb and am trying to find some way for him to be off the team by the start of the season.:tongue

You'd rather have another bad season eh? Because that's what we'd looking at without him.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You'd rather have another bad season eh? Because that's what we'd looking at without him.

I live in Eagles country... I've been watching him throw bounce passes for his entire career. That bias is hard to get rid of in 6months or however long it's been... I do believe he's an upgrade over Campbell, but I also think there's only so far he's going to take the team before things turn ugly. Hopefully I'm wrong.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I live in Eagles country... I've been watching him throw bounce passes for his entire career. That bias is hard to get rid of in 6months or however long it's been... I do believe he's an upgrade over Campbell, but I also think there's only so far he's going to take the team before things turn ugly. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Hey, so do I. I'm surrounded by a combination of Jackass Eagle fans and silent Steeler fans since the "bar incident", with Ravens fans just below me.

I never liked McNabb, but I've come to realize it's more because he was wearing that ugly shade of green. Personally, especially since I've been hearing him speak as a Redskins, he seems like a great guy and you can't argue with a 6-time Pro-Bowler's resume much. His system in Philly sucked. 70% passing/30% rushing schemes won't help your numbers. Most of his career, he won with absolute garbage depth at WR.

I see big things happening with him in D.C. He has the best surrounding cast and coaching staff in his career, which may help him get over the Super Bowl hump that Philadelphia will NEVER conquer.

He's our QB. Yes it's strange to see him in B&G but I'm excited he's here and not on another opponent's roster...and I'm going to support him.

I can't fathom being excited if Rex Grossman or an injury-prone rookie were our QB going into this season...or worse, Jay Cutler.



BACK TO THE CARDS - I bet Skelton will start against us next week.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Buster

Hey, so do I. I'm surrounded by a combination of Jackass Eagle fans and silent Steeler fans since the "bar incident", with Ravens fans just below me.

I never liked McNabb, but I've come to realize it's more because he was wearing that ugly shade of green. Personally, especially since I've been hearing him speak as a Redskins, he seems like a great guy and you can't argue with a 6-time Pro-Bowler's resume much. His system in Philly sucked. 70% passing/30% rushing schemes won't help your numbers. Most of his career, he won with absolute garbage depth at WR.

I see big things happening with him in D.C. He has the best surrounding cast and coaching staff in his career, which may help him get over the Super Bowl hump that Philadelphia will NEVER conquer.

He's our QB. Yes it's strange to see him in B&G but I'm excited he's here and not on another opponent's roster...and I'm going to support him.

How would you explain a 70%/30% playcalling split not helping a QBs numbers? I'd love my QB to have such a competitive advantage.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

How would you explain a 70%/30% playcalling split not helping a QBs numbers? I'd love my QB to have such a competitive advantage.

This isn't fantasy football.

- takes pressure off the QB to have to "make a play" on almost every play.
- more 2nd + 8 and 3rd & longs.
- Minimal play-action threat.
- Throwing against a pass-D most of the time, rather than a base D, minimizing mismatches being created against the extra LB.
- More blitzes to go against without a run threat.
- More speed on the field, rather than bulk, that can contain McNabb on the edge more effectively. Keeping him from breaking contain and putting the LB in a no-win situation.

Look at Elway's QB rating, he posted the 2nd thru 5th highest QB ratings of his career under Shanahan when the Denver run game was in the top 5. Favre had a career year last year.....AP and the run game had a great deal to do with that. A good running game is a QBs best friend.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I live in Eagles country... I've been watching him throw bounce passes for his entire career. That bias is hard to get rid of in 6months or however long it's been... I do believe he's an upgrade over Campbell, but I also think there's only so far he's going to take the team before things turn ugly. Hopefully I'm wrong.

LOL, bounce passes. This is true. I never thought he was a great QB, but I always liked his personality. He has intangibles, so that counts for something. I think as McNabb goes, so does our season. He can do well, or he can do poorly -- he's inconsistent. In any case, he was able to win games like that his entire career.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I live in Eagles country... I've been watching him throw bounce passes for his entire career. That bias is hard to get rid of in 6months or however long it's been... I do believe he's an upgrade over Campbell, but I also think there's only so far he's going to take the team before things turn ugly. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I've followed him since his SU days, always been a fan of his despite that little Eagles thing.

Yeah he's going to bounce passes in the dirt that will make you scratch your head, but then he'll throw a strike 60 yards down the field for a TD. That's always been his game. The guy is a winner, end of story.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I've followed him since his SU days, always been a fan of his despite that little Eagles thing.

Yeah he's going to bounce passes in the dirt that will make you scratch your head, but then he'll avoid a rush 90% of other QBs would've taken a sack on, then throw a strike 60 yards down the field for a TD. That's always been his game. The guy is a winner, end of story.

Agree and added my

The thing you can't coach or scheme for on D is QB who can escape the rush and still make plays downfield. McNabb has the rare ability to do this. As did John Elway and Steve Young. McNabb isn't to the level they are in the pocket, but he's always been a pass-first guy, then make plays with his legs if necessary, unlike a Vick or V. Young. McNabb's strength and mobility will help our WRs and run game because the D has to try to account for him breaking the rush. I'll take the occasional bounce pass from him, if he can put up the passing numbers he has over the few years.