V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"

[SBXVII]

^ Part of our problem (I think) is our #3 and our #4 are tied up next yr. Depending on how McNabb does depends on which we send to Philli. The other goes to the Saints for the OL we picked up. So we have picks in rounds 1,2,5,6,7. Maybe we can offer this yrs 5th and a 2nd in 2011? I don't know.

I will say this about Thomas though. I was excited when we picked up both Thomas and Kelly. Kinda pissed we picked up Kelly already injured and needing surgery but we did. Kelly got a pass the first yr due to injury. Thomas really didn't shine, hardly saw the field. So WR's supposedly have a 3 yr improvement plan and shine in their 3rd yr according to some but Thomas didn't improve his second yr (hardly) and Kelly was injured again. This is the pairs 3rd yr, their bust out yr supposedly and Kelly is injured once again and Thomas is now what 4th, 5th on the depth chart?

Maybe he's just not as good as some of you want to believe, and your holding out hope he gets over some invisible hump that he might not ever get over. I saw potential in Mason and after 3 yrs of no improvement and a HC knowing what he's doing by letting him go I had to come to grips with the fact that Mason was just not as good as I thought. So to with Thomas.

If we can get VJ then get him... we need a WR with his type of talent... I don't care who it is and we are starting to look at slim picking now. But I'm honestly done holding out hope Thomas will step up and be "the man." Pretty bad when an undrafted WR steps up and looks better then a second rounder. Thomas should be embarrased.

[Ade Jimoh Fan Club]

If we make a play on VJ it will be for two reasons:

1) McNabb vouches for him. VJ & McNabb train together in the offseason in Arizona, so McNabb has a good read on whether or not he's a talent or just product of the system. Plus, McNabb and VJ already have chemistry, which leads me to point #2

2) Games #5 & 6 this year are against GB and Indy. Kinda would be nice to have VJ to kick that stretch off - and the timing works out great for us.

I'm all for signing him - if, and only if, we don't sell the farm for him. He should not get Top Tier WR money (a la Fitzgerald, Moss, etc...), but about $6-7M/year would be reasonable.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

If we make a play on VJ it will be for two reasons:

1) McNabb vouches for him. VJ & McNabb train together in the offseason in Arizona, so McNabb has a good read on whether or not he's a talent or just product of the system. Plus, McNabb and VJ already have chemistry, which leads me to point #2

2) Games #5 & 6 this year are against GB and Indy. Kinda would be nice to have VJ to kick that stretch off - and the timing works out great for us.

I'm all for signing him - if, and only if, we don't sell the farm for him. He should not get Top Tier WR money (a la Fitzgerald, Moss, etc...), but about $6-7M/year would be reasonable.

Well San Diego thinks this too and this is the reason why he's holding out.

[Mechanix544]

agreed SBXVII, he should be very embarassed. He stinks.

[CRedskinsRule]

DT should have been a valuable trade commodity, ie DT and 2012 2nd for VJ, but he apparently can't convince any coaches of his incredible worth. Us keeping him out of games is right up there with AH's "ankle sprain" for theorists like myself. If we trade AH to Tennesse (or Houston) for their 3rd, we ought to give SD that 3rd and DT for VJ. But DT really hasn't flashed enough to wet the lips over in SD. All in all, I believe VJ is going somewhere by Wednesday and if it's us, I would be good with it.

[saden1]

Is DT seriously that bad as a WR? Did he even get a look on offensive against Dallas?

[aceinthehouse]

Cant believe this hasn't been posted here yet..lol

Originally Posted by Hitman#21 View Post
This is from a guy on twitter named Incarcerated Bob, he has been pretty spot on with all his news and called the Revis signing early that Sunday, he has good sources with the Jets but take it all with a grain of salt.

incarcerated bob (incarceratedbob) on Twitter


"Washington Redskins have become front runners for Vincent Jackson but they want Jets involved in 3 way trade for Haynesworth"
"Redskins have called Jets to see interest in a three way deal involving Vincent Jackson to Skins & Haynesworth to Jets"
"Sources indicate Skins have been the aggressor and Jets have not committed either way. Skins want Jackson bad they need Jets"
"This is not a done deal and nothing is imminent-Just some Buzz from last night-I repeat Jets have not showed their hand yet"

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by aceinthehouse

Cant believe this hasn't been posted here yet..lol

No offense, but if I cared about reports from ES, I'd be on ES.

[aceinthehouse]

Originally Posted by Lotus

No offense, but if I cared about reports from ES, I'd be on ES.

I just found the quote FROM ES

The report is a twitter from incarcerated bob,who I've never even heard of...

But apparently,is a pretty good source from news from what I've been reading...They even respect the guy from the Jets ganggreen and many other boards..

It's all just speculation like everything else,but coming from this BOB character,apparently means more for some reason...

I'm just giving you guys the heads up...

If it's true then great..if not..oh well?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Lotus

No offense, but if I cared about reports from ES, I'd be on ES.

OMG. Look dudes trying to pass on any info he learns. Some say the same BS about PFT, Redskins Insider, SI, and so on. Not everyone likes the same sources, so take it with a grain of salt and check your happy sources to see if they are saying the same thing then quote them if you like.

[Monkeydad]

Incarcerated Bob? He sounds trustworthy.

Redskins Insider - Vincent Jackson's suspension could drop to four games


Vincent Jackson's suspension could drop to four games

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan would not rule out pursuing San Diego receiver Vincent Jackson on Thursday but noted that "we don't talk about people as well, for obvious reasons."

The NFL ruled earlier Thursday that Jackson's six-game suspension would be only four games if the Chargers manage to trade him. Jackson has been locked in a contract dispute with the Chargers, and if they trade him, he could be available in Week 5.

Shanahan offered few hints as to his intentions. "We'll always be trying to upgrade our football team, if that presented itself. We have people evaluating different people on teams all the time," Shanahan said. "You never know when a trade does work out or when you can get somebody to help your football team. But that's part of the process."

Reports have indicated that the Redskins have an interest in Jackson. And the preseason games and first regular-season game would seem to indicate that they still have the need. Santana Moss was the only receiver to notch more than one catch last week against the Cowboys. The team's other starter, 38-year-old Joey Galloway, was targeted just once and didn't have a reception in his Redskins' debut.

Shanahan said the fact that Jackson would not be available immediately will surely weigh on some team's decision.

"Obviously, you'd want a guy who could come in and help you right away over a guy who'd be suspended for four games," he said. "I'm sure that people who do make up their mind obviously will weight the strengths and the weaknesses and make the decisions based on what's best for their organization."

This answers nothing, except that VJ is being looked at.

[aceinthehouse]

Check it out (ESPN.com):
Vincent Jackson to sit out four games if traded under terms of settlement - ESPN

"San Diego Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson will be eligible to play in Week 5 if he's traded under the terms of a settlement between the NFL and the players' union.

The NFL and the NFL Players Association settled the case in talks on Thursday, the same day Jackson was to appeal for his suspension to be halved to three games. The settlement provides for Jackson to sit out a total of four weeks -- all of his league-mandated three-game suspension and one additional week with his new team. He was due to sit out six weeks as a result of the Chargers placing him on the roster exempt list.

The pact clears the way for an NFL team to acquire Jackson, a top-tier wide receiver who caught 68 passes for 1,167 yards and nine touchdowns last season, for most of the season.

But the agreement comes with a deadline: The Chargers have from 4 p.m. ET on Friday to 4 p.m. ET on Wednesday to trade Jackson in order for him to miss only four games. Otherwise, he's back to sitting out six games."

We may not get him,but V-Jack will be dealt before Wednesday...

[CRedskinsRule]

so if we could do a 3 way trade which partner would be the best fit:
The parameters would be this:
the skins send a 5th to SD, AH to trading partner : Skins get VJ,
trading partner sends their 2nd to SD. : Gets AH
one option:maybe the Skins 5th goes to the trading partner and SD gets the trading partner's 6th

Tennessee
Houston (deal would have to be after this weekend's game I expect)
NYJ

Could this type deal happen, and which partner makes the most sense?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

so if we could do a 3 way trade which partner would be the best fit:
The parameters would be this:
the skins send a 5th to SD, AH to trading partner : Skins get VJ,
trading partner sends their 2nd to SD. : Gets AH
one option:maybe the Skins 5th goes to the trading partner and SD gets the trading partner's 6th

Tennessee
Houston (deal would have to be after this weekend's game I expect)
NYJ

Could this type deal happen, and which partner makes the most sense?

I'm not cutting on you but some people have weird trade thoughts. I would presume the Skins would be trying to hook up with a team that runs the 4-3 and needs a DT in order to make AH happy and his new team. Thats if Tenn bails on us. Why would we send AH to any other team running a 3-4 knowing AH will not be happy and will stir the pot, and why would any team running the 3-4 like us want to pick him up knowing AH does not want to play in it?

So I'm guessing the Jets would not be our trading partner, or anyone else who utilizes the 3-4.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'm not cutting on you but some people have weird trade thoughts. I would presume the Skins would be trying to hook up with a team that runs the 4-3 and needs a DT in order to make AH happy and his new team. Thats if Tenn bails on us. Why would we send AH to any other team running a 3-4 knowing AH will not be happy and will stir the pot, and why would any team running the 3-4 like us want to pick him up knowing AH does not want to play in it?

So I'm guessing the Jets would not be our trading partner, or anyone else who utilizes the 3-4.

I added the Jets based on the one report above, I agree that only a 4-3 really makes sense, but Rex Ryan could think he can get AH going (and probably could)