Other teams cuts - and the obvious should we get them question.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Not that big of a loss for us honestly. He's a solid guy but getting old fast . He's lost a step. We really need to jump on VJ but I think Clayton is the more realistic option

No we don't need to jump on VJ and what is it with you and Mike Clayton??

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

No we don't need to jump on VJ and what is it with you and Mike Clayton??

So your saying you would rather have TJ than Jackson? That's insane and as far as Clayton goes, I'm not that high on him but he's a big target and a red zone option that we don't have. Jackson can do it all, Big,Physical,Fast. There is a reason why SD hasn't traded him yet, their not stupid.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

So your saying you would rather have TJ than Jackson? That's insane and as far as Clayton goes, I'm not that high on him but he's a big target and a red zone option that we don't have. Jackson can do it all, Big,Physical,Fast. There is a reason why SD hasn't traded him yet, their not stupid.

Did I say that? Cause it doesn't look like I said that. I said we don't need to jump on VJ

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Not that big of a loss for us honestly. He's a solid guy but getting old fast . He's lost a step. We really need to jump on VJ but I think Clayton is the more realistic option

I agree we need to make a move at WR but V-Jac is suspended 4 games and Clayton is an underachiever. Housh would've been the guy to get, he did catch 79 balls w/ bad QB play. Bryant could be an option mid season if his knee is healthy, but it looks like we're at least stuck w/ Galloway against Dallas.

[PHazard]

I say we take a look at James Hardy. Another unproductive 2nd round pick from that dreaded 2008 draft. Might be unproductive cuz of Buffalo system. He's 6'5", runs a 4.4. Remember earlier in the offseason, all the talk about Mike Shanahan making Malcolm Kelly the next Brandon Marshall, using him in that role? Or Remember the talk of Kyle Shanahan turning Malcolm Kelly into the next Andre Johnson, moving him all around creating headaches for defenses to cover him? This guy is faster, although has had injury problems, is healthy now. He's a much younger option than Clayton, who hasnt been productive in 6 years.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by PHazard

I say we take a look at James Hardy. Another unproductive 2nd round pick from that dreaded 2008 draft. Might be unproductive cuz of Buffalo system. He's 6'5", runs a 4.4. Remember earlier in the offseason, all the talk about Mike Shanahan making Malcolm Kelly the next Brandon Marshall, using him in that role? Or Remember the talk of Kyle Shanahan turning Malcolm Kelly into the next Andre Johnson, moving him all around creating headaches for defenses to cover him? This guy is faster, although has had injury problems, is healthy now. He's a much younger option than Clayton, who hasnt been productive in 6 years.

That means nothing. The guy doesn't know how to run routes which is a killer for any receiver. On top of that he has trouble catching the ball in traffic. All his speed is simply straight line as he's slow in and out of cuts (part of the reason he struggles with route running).

[PHazard]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

That means nothing. The guy doesn't know how to run routes which is a killer for any receiver. On top of that he has trouble catching the ball in traffic. All his speed is simply straight line as he's slow in and out of cuts (part of the reason he struggles with route running).

I get ur points. but in our offense, The Z receiver (Santana Moss) is the one who moves around, does most of the cutting, intermediate routes, moves to the slot, needs precise route running skills. The X receiver is the deep threat, running deeper routes to clear guys underneath. Not that the X receiver does a fly everytime but its less emphasized. Plus Kyle Shanahan knows how to move his receivers around to get the best out of them. And was thinking with McCardell's help he could improve his route running. Sorry, I'm just lookin at any option to replace Joey Galloway. AND AT THE VERY LEAST, knock Roydell Williams off our god damn roster. VJ is too expensive, TJ is already gone, Mark Clayton was traded 4 mins after moving to the trading block.

List i would consider looking at (Not in this order):

James Hardy (as i mentioned)
Michael Clayton (have already discussed)
Freddie Barnes
Juaquin Inglesias
David Clowney
Kelley Washington (Was a 3rd down ace last year plus a great special teamer)
Jason Hill (not sure how serious his injury is)
Marko Mitchell (i dont care how his route running is, he has to have potential to do better)

Thats just to name a few. I dont even like them all but think they are better than Roydell Williams. I think we even have an in house WR better than williams in Terrance Austin but thats another rant for another time.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by PHazard

I get ur points. but in our offense, The Z receiver (Santana Moss) is the one who moves around, does most of the cutting, intermediate routes, moves to the slot, needs precise route running skills. The X receiver is the deep threat, running deeper routes to clear guys underneath. Not that the X receiver does a fly everytime but its less emphasized. Plus Kyle Shanahan knows how to move his receivers around to get the best out of them. And was thinking with McCardell's help he could improve his route running. Sorry, I'm just lookin at any option to replace Joey Galloway. AND AT THE VERY LEAST, knock Roydell Williams off our god damn roster. VJ is too expensive, TJ is already gone, Mark Clayton was traded 4 mins after moving to the trading block.

List i would consider looking at (Not in this order):

James Hardy (as i mentioned)
Michael Clayton (have already discussed)
Freddie Barnes
Juaquin Inglesias
David Clowney
Kelley Washington (Was a 3rd down ace last year plus a great special teamer)
Jason Hill (not sure how serious his injury is)
Marko Mitchell (i dont care how his route running is, he has to have potential to do better)

Thats just to name a few. I dont even like them all but think they are better than Roydell Williams. I think we even have an in house WR better than williams in Terrance Austin but thats another rant for another time.

This is a classic example of 'grass isn't greener'. Just because someone isn't a Redskin doesn't make him better than current Redskins.

James Hardy-Makes Malcolm Kelly look like a picture of health.
Michael Clayton-I'm surprised he hasn't been signed yet also b/c of his tie to Allen
Freddie Barnes-???
Juaquin Inglesias-Has never done anything in the NFL
David Clowney-Also, never done anything and was ripped on Hard Knocks for his lazy approach to his assignments
Kelley Washington-Has been great at ST and nothing else through his career
Jason Hill-You don't know how hurt he is, but he's better than active players we have?
Marko Mitchell-He's been cut by 3 teams and is now in the CFL

Explain how any of these are an upgrade?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

This is a classic example of 'grass isn't greener'. Just because someone isn't a Redskin doesn't make him better than current Redskins.

James Hardy-Makes Malcolm Kelly look like a picture of health.
Michael Clayton-I'm surprised he hasn't been signed yet also b/c of his tie to Allen
Freddie Barnes-???
Juaquin Inglesias-Has never done anything in the NFL
David Clowney-Also, never done anything and was ripped on Hard Knocks for his lazy approach to his assignments
Kelley Washington-Has been great at ST and nothing else through his career
Jason Hill-You don't know how hurt he is, but he's better than active players we have?
Marko Mitchell-He's been cut by 3 teams and is now in the CFL

Explain how any of these are an upgrade?

Preach

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by PHazard

I get ur points. but in our offense, The Z receiver (Santana Moss) is the one who moves around, does most of the cutting, intermediate routes, moves to the slot, needs precise route running skills. The X receiver is the deep threat, running deeper routes to clear guys underneath. Not that the X receiver does a fly everytime but its less emphasized. Plus Kyle Shanahan knows how to move his receivers around to get the best out of them. And was thinking with McCardell's help he could improve his route running. Sorry, I'm just lookin at any option to replace Joey Galloway. AND AT THE VERY LEAST, knock Roydell Williams off our god damn roster. VJ is too expensive, TJ is already gone, Mark Clayton was traded 4 mins after moving to the trading block.

List i would consider looking at (Not in this order):

James Hardy (as i mentioned)
Michael Clayton (have already discussed)
Freddie Barnes
Juaquin Inglesias
David Clowney
Kelley Washington (Was a 3rd down ace last year plus a great special teamer)
Jason Hill (not sure how serious his injury is)
Marko Mitchell (i dont care how his route running is, he has to have potential to do better)

Thats just to name a few. I dont even like them all but think they are better than Roydell Williams. I think we even have an in house WR better than williams in Terrance Austin but thats another rant for another time.

And all of our receivers are learning all of the roles. Our receivers have to be able to play all of the roles, and it's quite clear he can't.

WTF is up with people and their love for scrubs? Receivers play a guessing game with cornerbacks, and every time they tip off the corner, the corner likely gonna guess right and stone the receiver almost EVERY STINKING TIME.

How do they tip off the corner? By running shitty routes. DUH

[mlmpetert]

Owen Schmitt is getting gonna get looked at by the eagles and Bangles

Source: Eagles will bring in FB Owen Schmitt for workout | National Football Post

[NYCskinfan82]

Redskins announce the signing of LB Mike Balogun to PS spent preseson with SF.

[skinsfaninok]

Ravens WR Mark Clayton is on the trading block

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Ravens WR Mark Clayton is on the trading block

I think you mean Rams WR Mark Clayton is off the trading block

[SFREDSKIN]

Niners cut Nate Davis and sign Troy Smith.