One last thing about Coles...

[MTK]

Daseal, I know you're not a big fan of Gibbs' 3 SB wins or Hall of Fame bust, but by totally dismissing his accomplishments you're missing the point here.

The point is Gibbs has the majority of the fans' trust. If he's not raked over the coals by the media to the level you think he should be, it's probably because he's proven himself to us already. We're willing to let things slide and let him get acclimated to the NFL again. Fair or unfair, that's the way it is.

I don't think anybody here is unaware of the fact he didn't do a great job with the offense last year. If there are blind supporters they are few and far between. I have repeatedly said he didn't do a good job last year and he needs to improve. But I'm not going to take every shot I can at him in the meantime like it seems you do.

Perhaps you're still a little bitter about your boy Spurrier and the lousy job he did here. Now you're taking your shots back at the Gibbs fans. There's nothing wrong with being critical, but you come off as someone who is finding some joy in ripping on Gibbs every chance you get. I really don't recall you being this critical of Spurrier at all. I know you'll say you were critical of him too and I don't doubt that, but I don't care what you say you definitely did not take shots at him on a regular basis like you do with Gibbs now.

Maybe I'm wrong here, but that's the impression I get, and your support of Coles seems to be yet another lame shot at Gibbs.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

I couldn't be more with Matty on this whole Coles v. Gibbs debate. I mean really, Daseal, are you serious? You're arguments about Gibbs being the most overrated coach in history are completely nonsensical. And I know you continually throw out the disclaimer that "it's not my argument to make because I don't have sufficient information to make those claims". Suggestion then: if it's not your argument to make, Don't try to make it. Just because your great uncle convinced you some time ago with arguments you can't even remember now, doesn't mean you're going to sway anyone in this forum. One of the highest winning percentages in NFL history, 3 rings, what more do you want? As I recall it, the NFL wasn't on strike for the vast majority of Gibbs's wins. If your great uncle would like to post his argument, I'm sure many of us in this forum would be more than happy to go toe-to-toe with his arguments. Really, I'm not trying to get personal here, but I just can't imagine any skins fan making such statements about the man who brought us our glory years. I live in Philly, and even Eagles fans don't try making that argument......and that's saying something.

As for the rediculous amount of criticism I see on this site against Gibbs (presumably because he didn't win us a Super Bowl in his first year back in over a decade), can I please remind everyone that it's been ONE year so far (this isn't specific to Daseal.....I know you said 3 years is acceptable).

As for Coles: Good ridence. It's not like he doesn't have a history of questionable behavior. Nice guy? Why? What basis does anyone have to say that Coles is a nice guy? And lest not forget that we are talking about a guy who demanded to be traded because he just couldn't stand to be a Redskin anymore because that darn HALL OF FAME coach didn't call plays the way Laverneous Coles wanted them called, WHILE he was being paid as an elite receiver in the NFL. A guy that then forced his new team to renegotiate a new deal with him or he would hold out because the contract he signed two years ago that made him one of the highest paid WRs in the history of the NFL just wasn't good enough anymore? Seriously, people, why are we defending poor, unappreciated, life's-not-fair, Coles? Boo Hoo for him and his 9 million dollars a year. Poor guy came up short on yardage and TD catches.......and after all, what's more important to Laverneous Coles than Laverneous Coles's stats. I'll take anyone over a player like that.