Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Honestly, I think Shannahan is just running this crap into the ground. According to the players, they stand behind AH and i think they are just getting tired of all this crap. He is the best D-lineman we have. I dont care what anyone says, he is our best. Just put the shit behind us, line him up at DE and let the dude play. all this stuff is just hurting the team. He is truly ready to play the DE position and go. why they keep messing with his head and putting him in on only 16 plays and doing the NT thing is absolutely mind boggling. Shanny's ego is that big?? This just needs to be squashed, play the man at DE and lets have a dominant D and let AH see how dominant he can be. And when he see's this maybe next year (if he's still here) wont be that big of a deal.

The man is a beast. So you have to stroke his ego a bit, but I think all this "it is my team, and you'll do what i tell you to" stuff from shanny is just getting old.

I don't know man, I kinda agree with you. He may be the best DE but if he does not fit our scheme then he looks avarage. I know a lot of people are saying he lets just get rid of him or take what we can get for him but I don't see it that way. Lets say you purchased an expensive car, after the period at which you can return it you realize it does not fit your life style, do you just give it away? No, you gunna want to try and get some type of return on the thing or atleast enough to pay off the loan.

The problem is AH looks bad as a NT and we keep saying he looks awsome and does anyone want him. The rest of the league is laughing at us knowing AH's fat body can only hold up for about 6-8 plays before he gets too tired. Also we are limited as to who to trade with cause of teams using the 3-4 scheme. We have to look at which teams are using the 4-3 and hope one of them makes a play or needs a DE, otherwise we should just take him out of the NT spot and put him in at DE with Daniels. Hope he plays good enough for other teams to get interested and offer more then a 4th or 5th rounder. At this point I'd rather sit him on the bench after he took DS's 21 mill vs. trading him for nothing.

[skinsnut]

The best thing that could happen (unfortunately) is if some defensive starting lineman goes down for the season so we get another trading partner.
The jets just lost starting NT Kris Jenkins (who I believe was a DT in a 4-3 with carolina at one point.
Too bad the press has been making such a fuss that haynesworth doesn't want to play NT...because the Jets would be a great trading partner....especially since they are AFC.
I would take a 2nd rounder in a heartbeat for Haynesworth....I really thnk anything short of that would mean he stays on the team for the remainder of the season.
Keep in mind a Jets 2nd rounder should be kinda low...they should consider it...just to help US out!

[skinsfaninok]

Jets lose Jenkins for season.. He's a NT though

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Jets lose Jenkins for season.. He's a NT though

So what trade him to them anyway ,let him be their problem.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So what trade him to them anyway ,let him be their problem.

I am sure you and the Giants would like us to trade AH out of the NFC east.
Then you guys can rush for over 200 yards over Golsten, Kemo and Carricker.
We need this malcontent this season until we can get a replacement. .

[skinsfaninok]

Yea I agree Giantone

[MTK]

The Jets aren't going to want a guy that is clearly not suited for NT.

[aceinthehouse]

The Jets don't run the same 3-4 we do and their tannanbaum or whatever his name is,said he'll look into all avenues,but that they will look to address D-line.

I believe something is cooking already...They are already speculating how haynesworth could be moved to DE with Poul or whatever moved to Nose...Check out the ganggreen forums and it's nuts on this...

The question is...what the hell is shanny/team wanting in compensation? 21 mil back? and or a 2nd rounder...?

I had the wheels turning in my head and I can't help but wonder,if they would trade us either Braylon Edwards or santonio Holmes (currently serving 4 game suspension) and already 1 out of the way...I don't think were getting a 2nd rd pick,but i do think we could get a player.

And a WR would be an upgrade, despite my thread in the warpath on our WR's being fine...

So I was thinking..(it hurts..lol)
What if we traded haynesworth for Santonio Holmes? Didn't they just trade for him for a 4th rounder?

That would be more than fair value on both ends imo...

And I think that Holmes can practice with the team, for the next few weeks while serving his suspension as well..right? Learn the Playbook,etc.?

So i ask...Would you guys trade Albert Haynesworth for Santonio Holmes straight up?
If this were on the table?

I'm thinking Fat Al's destination is more likely to the jets instead of tennessee imo...
Maybe Rex's ego thinks he would fit?

And maybe the Jets are more desperate and would make a better deal than the titans?
Specially after the loss...

Who knows?

(BTW...they're already looking at possibly trading for Sean Rogers) so the phones are working....

[aceinthehouse]

NM...lol
League source: Jets won't pursue Haynesworth

[NYCskinfan82]

While serving a suspension you are not allowed any contact with the team.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Someone asked if I would trade Albert Haynesworth for Santonio Holmes even up - - if that trade were offered.

The answer is:

Hell, Yeah!

Holmes is hardly a model citizen or a contender for "Best Teammate In The NFL" for any given season, but I would take him and his ability to play every offensive snap from Game 5 - Game 16 this year and all of next year compared to Haynesworth's ability to play no more than 50% of the defensive snaps.

In fact, if Haynesworth's contributions to the next 3 Skins' games are the same as last Sunday night, then Holmes contributions while on a 4-game suspension are about the same.

[MTK]

Santonio for AH straight up would be a no-brainer. Trouble is the Jets have zero interest in AH and they LOVE Santonio. Pipe dream over.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Santonio for AH straight up would be a no-brainer. Trouble is the Jets have zero interest in AH and they LOVE Santonio. Pipe dream over.

Don't they play 3-4 defense?

[MTK]

Yes they play a 3-4.

[SmootSmack]

Well the Jets signed Howard Green, so they kind of got a former Redskins DT