Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth

[mooby]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Washington Redskins tackle Albert Haynesworth hesitated before cashing bonus check - ESPN

Just a little more AH info. I know there is going to be someone say I so tired of the AH story.

I kinda wish he just told the staff he wouldn't take the 21 mil so we could've gone our seperate ways. Other than goal line defense I haven't seen much of an impact and to be honest I can't tell if it's because he's not putting maximum effort in or if he's honestly getting his ass kicked.

[skins89moss]

The Best defensive Lineman that ever played the game. Man he sure was off his rocker for even saying that cause he is not even the best lineman in the NFC East right now. I hope AH turns it around and just goes out every Sunday and destroy who ever is playing over him.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

The Best defensive Lineman that ever played the game. Man he sure was off his rocker for even saying that cause he is not even the best lineman in the NFC East right now. I hope AH turns it around and just goes out every Sunday and destroy who ever is playing over him.

1st thing - he didn't say he was the best lineman ever...he said he wanted to become the best lineman ever. What is wrong with that??

[#56fanatic]

I just wanted to share something with all of you regarding Albert Haynesworth. Everyone is jumping on his ass and calling him this or that or the person you THINK he is. I am not sure if you people here saw the news piece on a guy that had a rare cancer and got to get a VIP walk through of the redskins facility, meet the players, coaches, go through the locker room, meeting rooms, film rooms all that. It was aired probably about a month 1/2 ago on ABC. Kevin Robinson was his name. That is my best friend, and unfortunately he passed about a month ago, not long after that story aired. the point of this post is to let you know AH is honestly a good dude. This was when he wasn't speaking the media, fans or anything and he walked by Kevin and asked if he could have a picture, and AH turned around and said absolutely! Walked over talked to Kevin and his wife for a while. He was the nicest guy he met all day, and he met a ton of the players. Albert said that all the stuff that he goes through means absolutely nothing, that Kevin is an inspiration to a lot of people. I just thought after all the AH bashing, I needed to share that story.

[MonkFan4Life]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I just wanted to share something with all of you regarding Albert Haynesworth. Everyone is jumping on his ass and calling him this or that or the person you THINK he is. I am not sure if you people here saw the news piece on a guy that had a rare cancer and got to get a VIP walk through of the redskins facility, meet the players, coaches, go through the locker room, meeting rooms, film rooms all that. It was aired probably about a month 1/2 ago on ABC. Kevin Robinson was his name. That is my best friend, and unfortunately he passed about a month ago, not long after that story aired. the point of this post is to let you know AH is honestly a good dude. This was when he wasn't speaking the media, fans or anything and he walked by Kevin and asked if he could have a picture, and AH turned around and said absolutely! Walked over talked to Kevin and his wife for a while. He was the nicest guy he met all day, and he met a ton of the players. Albert said that all the stuff that he goes through means absolutely nothing, that Kevin is an inspiration to a lot of people. I just thought after all the AH bashing, I needed to share that story.

Hell of a story and most of all I am truly sorry to hear about your friend. It seems that he had some good moments on his way out. You'd like to hear more stories like this but there are so many that havent met him and their words are more relieble because they match the rumor mill.

As far as his game, I just hope he gets a shot on the field. Matt, I'm with you on not throwing him out there if he isn't quite comfortable but honestly is anyone on this defense comfortable yet ? It doesn't look that way. Hell Haslett himself doesn't seem that comfrotable but this team has to put the best players on the field. I learned how to drive on the road, not it a classroom. You gotta get that man out there.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I just wanted to share something with all of you regarding Albert Haynesworth. Everyone is jumping on his ass and calling him this or that or the person you THINK he is. I am not sure if you people here saw the news piece on a guy that had a rare cancer and got to get a VIP walk through of the redskins facility, meet the players, coaches, go through the locker room, meeting rooms, film rooms all that. It was aired probably about a month 1/2 ago on ABC. Kevin Robinson was his name. That is my best friend, and unfortunately he passed about a month ago, not long after that story aired. the point of this post is to let you know AH is honestly a good dude. This was when he wasn't speaking the media, fans or anything and he walked by Kevin and asked if he could have a picture, and AH turned around and said absolutely! Walked over talked to Kevin and his wife for a while. He was the nicest guy he met all day, and he met a ton of the players. Albert said that all the stuff that he goes through means absolutely nothing, that Kevin is an inspiration to a lot of people. I just thought after all the AH bashing, I needed to share that story.

Sometimes we as fans like to judge People based on their Performance on the field.. NFL stars are just like the rest of us, we all make mistakes but we are all just HUMAN.. Sorry about your friend man, Seems like AH is down to earth .

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

1st thing - he didn't say he was the best lineman ever...he said he wanted to become the best lineman ever. What is wrong with that??

Your right he said he wanted to be the best Lineman to ever play the game. That sounded good when he signed his contract and when Synder was parading his prize free agent. Talk is cheap go so why not go to OTA's when you get a new HC and DC to learn the new scheme. If you want to be the best then you need to do everything posible to be the best. He is no where close to Reggie White, Brue Smith, Randy White, Dexter Manley, Charles Mann and so on. He is dreaming thus far but we will see if he is commited to stay here and be the best.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

Your right he said he wanted to be the best Lineman to ever play the game. That sounded good when he signed his contract and when Synder was parading his prize free agent. Talk is cheap go so why not go to OTA's when you get a new HC and DC to learn the new scheme. If you want to be the best then you need to do everything posible to be the best. He is no where close to Reggie White, Brue Smith, Randy White, Dexter Manley, Charles Mann and so on. He is dreaming thus far but we will see if he is commited to stay here and be the best.

He never said he was close to the play of those guys you mentioned. He was wrong for not coming, he even admitted as much saying if he had it to do over he would have come to them. (during the espn interview) He seems to be ready to give it all he has. The last game against Philly, he really had a good game. He is saying that he is coming to all the stuff next year so we'll see. Right now, we dont have the luxory of sitting him if we expect to have a defense that is going to do what it is we want to do. He is our best lineman, and needs to be on the field. bottom line.

[MonkFan4Life]

I'm fine with him being here. I'm kind of getting tired of the "Haynesworth Issue" and not because of Albert himself. Shanny needs to set his ego aside because you can't keep trotting out guys that are not as good as he is while we get gashed. Is he the best ? No, it his first year playing this position but put that effer out there. All of this should've been over after he played the entire 4th preseason game so stop all the bullshit. Put Haynesworth in the game and let that dude get comfortable. We need pressure and the guys that are out there aren't cutting it.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

I'm fine with him being here. I'm kind of getting tired of the "Haynesworth Issue" and not because of Albert himself. Shanny needs to set his ego aside because you can't keep trotting out guys that are not as good as he is while we get gashed. Is he the best ? No, it his first year playing this position but put that effer out there. All of this should've been over after he played the entire 4th preseason game so stop all the bullshit. Put Haynesworth in the game and let that dude get comfortable. We need pressure and the guys that are out there aren't cutting it.

Monkfan - I have said the exact same thing over the last week. This stuff has to stop, put Haynesworth on the field and let him play. People want to get on his ass because he hasn't done much, well when you are only on the field for 1 or 2 plays every 3 or 4 series it makes it hard to get into the game. Shanny definately is trying to prove a point, and right now Haynesworth being silent and saying all the right things is winning the court of public opinion. that is the way i see it.

[SFREDSKIN]

Haynesworth didn't deposit his $21 million check right away - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

[MTK]

I honestly don't think behind the scenes that Shanahan is engaged in this stand off with AH that some seem to think. At this point it's probably up to Haslett as what packages he's playing in, and AH probably just hasn't won his complete trust yet.

Plus with the late start he got in the 3-4 he's just not where he needs to be yet. AH himself just said the transition has been difficult. With the problems we're already having, I'm not sure tossing a guy in there that's not 100% comfortable in what he's doing is really the answer.

[over the mountain]

Thank you for sharing 56, Im sorry to hear about your best friend. condolences to you, his family and wife.

[MTK]

Well, he did play more last week than we've seen so that should be a good sign. Not sure how many snaps exactly but he did seem to be in there alot.

[SmootSmack]

#56Fanatic, my condolences on your friend. And I don't doubt that Haynesworth has good qualities as a human being. As do most other players. From people I've spoken to AH is a good guy

However, as cold as this may sound, that's not an excuse for the decisions he chosen to make as a football player. More importantly, the decisions he chosen to make as a member of our favorite team-the Washington Redskins. He made the adult decision not to attend the OTAs and mini-camps and work out on his own. I've got absolutely no problem with that. But when you do all that, I would expect that he would come ready to pass a standard conditioning test and know the defensive schemes. That's my issue with him. I don't mean to take anything away from what he did for your friend, that was certainly a tremendous gesture. But, Danny Wuerffel was with very little argument the nicest, most genuine Redskin I ever met. Absolutely loved talking to him as a person. As a Skins fan, I didn't want him on the field.