2010 HBO Hard Knocks?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mc2guy

the Payton Manning's of the world, that I think it adds a spice to the league.

See I don't , last thing we need are more assholes(sorry Mods).We have players hitting wives and girlfriends ,drunk drivers,DUI's ....players shooting oneself and...well etc.I think we need more of the Payton or Eli...or the golly gee wiz types so the kids of today have real sports type people they can look up to,ya want spice ....go to the street corner.Not players on TV who can't remeber the names of his kids or their 7 or 8 different mothers.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

See I don't , last thing we need are more assholes(sorry Mods).We have players hitting wives and girlfriends ,drunk drivers,DUI's ....players shooting oneself and...well etc.I think we need more of the Payton or Eli...or the golly gee wiz types so the kids of today have real sports type people they can look up to,ya want spice ....go to the street corner.Not players on TV who can't remeber the names of his kids or their 7 or 8 different mothers.

I don't think Matty and company want those type of bad guys and Rex is not one of them.

The NFL is drama really, like a man's soap opera. Just like the wwe we need some faces and some heels, that is what makes the drama.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I don't think Matty and company want those type of bad guys and Rex is not one of them.

The NFL is drama really, like a man's soap opera. Just like the wwe we need some faces and some heels, that is what makes the drama.

No - he is not but he encourages those kind of guys. It's the "us against the world - the rules don't apply to us" kind of thuggism that is his meat and potatoes. It was in Baltimore and is again in NY. It's great until the inmates start realizing that, if the rules don't apply to them, then "Why the f*** should we listen to you Coach?" It will work great for a couple of years though.

GMScud - the last coach I detested as much as Rex? Buddy. Yup, THAT Buddy.

Character is fine. I got no problem with the voluminious cursing and vulgarity. Whatever, to me it seems a cheap and easy way to communicate and is more an aspect of lazy inspiration. ("heh heh heh - he said sh**"). It's the culture where sportsmanship is not only ignored but where it seems to be frowned upon as a sign of weakness.

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

It's the culture where sportsmanship is not only ignored but where it seems to be frowned upon as a sign of weakness.

I appreciate your sentiment, but where do you get that from Rex? I don't see him running up scores or purposefully trying to injure players like his dad did. How about Belicheck running up 50 points on a hall of fame coach for the fun of it then throwing deep in the 4th quarter? That, IMO, is as poor a sportsman as you can be and yes, I hate BB for it.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I don't think Matty and company want those type of bad guys and Rex is not one of them.

The NFL is drama really, like a man's soap opera. Just like the wwe we need some faces and some heels, that is what makes the drama.

I didn't mean to imply that they do want that type of personality at all.I just don't see Rex as the type to disdiscourage that and instill as someone else said sportsmanship ,it's a game and these guys are professionals and supposedly Rex is too but to me he doesn't act like it.

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by Giantone

See I don't , last thing we need are more assholes(sorry Mods).We have players hitting wives and girlfriends ,drunk drivers,DUI's ....players shooting oneself and...well etc.I think we need more of the Payton or Eli...or the golly gee wiz types so the kids of today have real sports type people they can look up to,ya want spice ....go to the street corner.Not players on TV who can't remeber the names of his kids or their 7 or 8 different mothers.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Where does being a loudmouth translate into being a thug? Rex isn't drunk driving, hitting people, or breaking the law. One does not beget the other.

I am the first guy to raise my hand and say that I don't want felons and misogynists on my team (see my uproar about the signing of LJ). But that is an entirely different issue. Rex isn't a law breaker. I don't even see Rex as a jerk, he's just a shit-talker...big deal.

The NFL is entertainment and Rex is entertaining, pure and simple. The league doesn't want ANYTHING to tarnish its image in the eyes of the viewers, which is why it has been sterilized over the years. Players and coaches are trained on toeing the company line and saying nothing controversial. When they do speak up, they are immediately shut down or suspended (see the media relations person shut down the AH interview two weeks ago when he started to mouth off). Rex bucks that trend, and IMO does it in a way that is quite fun to watch.

My point (and I think Mattyk's, but I don't want to speak for him), is that good story telling involves a protagonist and an antagonist. The NFL is full of the former, everyone wants to be the hero. I think it's fun to see someone willing to step out and be the antagonist for a while.